Why do so few people masturbate in the nofap challange?

1-3pmo per day make people weaker
Yes people need sex but pmo it not good it not evensex it lie

 

Ok I m just a newbie but I ll have a go:
1. Not sure, maybe in the beginning of a quitting porn path. I wonder about that myself.
I know though for sure, that if I manage to have a fap without porn, I then loose interest in porn.
I usually use porn as a stimulating tool, but then its like falling into the trap and wanting more and more porn.
2.I agree, I ve tried not faping for a few days and life seems more rewarding. I also thing having a fap every now and then, say twice a week is norm, but how do we keep it that way? How do you control what's normal?
3.It looks like its one of those "did the egg make the chicken or otherwise".
4. I would disagree, but then again to the extend that it does not interfear with your everyday life. Say if you fantasise about a friend all the time, then how do you face him next time you see him without thinking about it?

 

For me personally, I don't have anything against masturbation other than I can't handle it. I tried for over a decade to moderate my use of it and couldn't. Eventually it started to consume my life.

I've met 70 year old men who say they still masturbate. I do not want to be a creepy grandpa.

 

The reasons to abstain from masturbation is because of death grip. The tightness of you hand's grip is part of what rewires your brain to the point where intercourse doesn't feel good and your brain doesn't look forward to it and isn't aroused by it as it should be. In order to reboot- or get easily aroused for intercourse and O without DE, is to abstain from masturbation. Reboot is desired for those who want their woman to be the one to please them and for sex to be a more intimate experience.

It's not everyone's goal but it is for many.

 

Exactly this is my reason. If I'm able to cure death grip, then I have nothing against a fap every now and then. That is of course if I can handle it without DG relapse. But for the purpose of curing DG, I will do nofap until I achieve my goals. 3 weeks in now and already noticing progress.

If your grip is fine but you want to cure porn addiction, then I guess a fap every now and then is OK. But as we all know P and M go very well together, so I don't think I would risk it personally.

 

I've tried NoFap on and off for the past 2 years many, many times.
One trend that I noticed is making myself believe that fapping is ok but porn is not. This leads to me breaking my streak and fapping without watching porn. Unfortunately, this ALWAYS leads me to pick up the use of porn again.
On one level I can agree that sexual release is natural, it shouldn't be a big deal.
I agree that pornography is the major evil in this whole thing.
But yet for me, at least for now, the 2 are strongly intertwined.
I've done this mistake way too many times and now when I feel weak and think "I'm just going to fap but without porn so it's not that bad" I know that is complete bullshit.

 

I googled 70 years old and masturbate.

This what I found

"I'm almost 66 and I masturbate every chance I get. Sometimes this is twice a day. Wife doesn't do sex anymore so I find this very pleasurable. Although I haven't had a JO buddy since I was 17 I would love to have one now. I started masturbating before I could even cum and up until I was 17 always had a buddy. Always somebody my own age."

Ugh.. by JO buddy he means probably by "jerk off buddy" ugh..

 

It's about rewiring out brains to associate more wholesome things with sex. It's something that takes time because we've been acting out our whole lives. It's not saying that masturbating is bad. We're basically fasting, or going on a diet, or not touching something so it can heal.

 

I masturbated at age 11, discovered porn at 13, and started masturbating way too much (sometimes up to 5x a day, sometimes WAY MORE). I met my girlfriend and started having sex with her at around age 18 in college. I could not hold it up while having sex. I only stayed hard by masturbating and then resuming intercourse, which is not how sex is supposed to work. I programmed by brain to get aroused by my hand. Many PMO addicts do the same thing, and a big part of the reboot is getting rid of such programming. That's why we encourage no masturbation.

Another reason: even if you masturbate without looking at porn, there is a good chance that you are visualizing porn in your mind. You are still looking back at material that you watched from the past and probably playing it in your head. If you resist the urge to masturbate then you are telling your brain that this is not something you want to find arousing. You want to be aroused by a real person that you have sex with.