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40 days free, realized what held me back

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by Nalex25p, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Nalex25p

    Nalex25p Fapstronaut

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    Been struggling with p for 7 years, pmo for 3 years. Developed severe social anxiety and almost total anhedonia (loss of feeling pleasure, emotional numbness). I’ve been trying to stop ever since I first started these habits. Always had low motivation which I believe had do to with p and excessive internet/video game use, which makes normal less stimulating pleasures in life boring. It wasn’t till adding mo at 17 that I developed severe anhedonia and lossed all passion for everything in life.

    I could never make it passed 30 days on my own willpower without falling back into the addictive pattern. But recently I realized what held me back and was a major cause of my problem: instead of dealing with my negative emotions in a healthy way, I would escape or numb them out binging on food and literally being on my iPad/video games all day. Our emotions are meant to be processed and felt, whether good or bad.

    Within the last 2 months I’ve been incorporating a lot of healthy habits in my life: intermittent fasting, cold showers, exercising, no music or excessive piano playing (always thought it was healthy, didn’t realize personally how much dopamine was being released), zero video games, zero tv except sports, and limitting internet/tv use till after 7pm. I believe the biggest help was cold showers. After developing a habit of cold showers, I made it to my longest streak in three years; 49 days with pretty much zero urges. On day 46 I went back to warm showers, 3 days later relapsed. I’m now on my second highest streak of 40 days taking only cold showers (though I don’t turn it all the way to freezing cold since it’s winter) with zero urges.

    The last week I’ve had the most confidence and energy in my life. Went to the gym yesterday and workout for 3 hours non stop without getting tired. Never happened in my life. Severe social anxiety improved a lot. I’ve not had ANY junk food in two months, only natural healthy foods. Though I’m still struggling with anhedonia I can sense it slowly getting better. In fact on my last streak around day 45, I genuinely cried for the first time in many years (while worshipping God on my piano).

    I know it will take a while to fully heal, but now I feel like recovery is more possible. I’ve realized that God doesn’t give us these restrictions against sin just for no reason, there put there for our benefit, because he knows what’s best for us, and continuing on a sinful destructive path will only lead to death. I hope I can stick to this discipline and that these benefits continue. It has not been a smooth ride, some days are better than others, some are pretty terrible. Now I feel like I’m breaking free from not only the addiction to pmo, but pretty much every bad habit in my daily life.
     
  2. control your life

    control your life Distinguished Fapstronaut

    congrats on your streak ,keep going strong , good luck
     
  3. savingmylife

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    well done and keep it up
     
  4. 4DCreator

    4DCreator Fapstronaut

    Congratulations! Cold showers do nothing to me, urges don't go away at all.
    Yes, nofap brings loads of physical energy. Well done
     
  5. Walk_it_out

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    Amen brotha keep pressin forward great share thank you!
     
  6. congrats, keep up the good work
     
  7. CH3RRY

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    "I’ve realized that God doesn’t give us these restrictions against sin just for no reason, there put there for our benefit, because he knows what’s best for us, and continuing on a sinful destructive path will only lead to death." I don't want to criticize your faith, but I just want to give a different insight to this whole matter. I can only trust myself and my own strength, that is the reason why I don't and will never relapse. There's no outside force guiding me, it's me all on my own. I can get all the energy, power and will from within me. Someone would say this is exactly what "God" is metaphorically, but for me it's just me. I don't rely on anything or anyone, there's no God, only me and my mental strength. I just feel like thinking that God is guiding you is gonna make you fail. "Please God give me strength" no, "I get the strength from myself, that's why I succeed" . This is just how I think, I do come from a very atheistic society, so religion has never had any kind of influence on me.
     
  8. Nalex25p

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    I respect your view though it is not the same I have based on my experience of life. Based on how many times I’ve failed and how many times with my all my strength I’ve given into weakness, I could never fully trust in myself and place myself as God as you have. “I just feel like thinking that God is guiding you is gonna make you fail” Though I can’t be completely certain I am being guided by God though this journey, I honestly believe if it were not for my faith in Christ I would have ended my life a long time ago. With all I’ve gone through, and knowing this life is ultimately meaningless and we’re all going to the same fertilizer pit, there would be no point of going on with this life. Though knowing there is a God who actually loves us and created us for a purpose I can endure the trials of this life with a hope and perserverence that is not based on my own finite thinking and ability, and that all I’ve gone though has a redemptive value. That’s the way I live my life, and I understand if you disagree, because we are not all the same.

    I don’t want to start a debate though on this forum, but if you are interested in philosophical/theological discussion, I would recommend looking up Cliff Knechtly on YouTube. He a Christian philosopher who goes around to college campuses answering pretty much any question on God and religion you can think of. Just felt like sharing that if you were interested.
     
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  9. 19conquer

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    I'm so happy for you! I think that anhedonia or whatever you called it really does go away easier if you focus your attention on things that make you excited about life! :)
     
  10. Scorpion2

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    Wow very impressive not only did u give up pmo you gave up junk food , video games, and even music.

    I listen to alot of music and it definitely makes me happy but i didint realize that its a negative thing for us. I dont think id ever stop listening to music completely but i would cut down on it if i can find some evidence that its bad for you.
     
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  11. Casey54

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    Hey, great post brother, gives me hope on my journey!
     
  12. Thanks for sharing. Something special is happening in your life.
     
  13. Nalex25p

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    It’s mainly excessive use that can do harm. Music is good, though because of its highly stimulating nature it can cause your brain too numb it’s receptors down (mainly dopamine) to compensate. It’s like the saying “too much of a good thing.” Also like how that first bite of ice cream is never as good as the last bite.

    I used too play the piano hours every day non-stop for 10 years straight. I realized too much of it can actually drain a lot of your creativity and ambition from other aspects of life you engage in. So that being said, I’m definitely not giving up music completely, just taking a break while I am still recovering mentally, and to help speed up the process.

    This is mainly anecdotal, but there are studies showing that excessive pleasurable activities can cause downregulation of dopamine and lead to less motivation, drive, etc...
     
  14. I had a couple of thoughts about the Nov 20 post:

    I couldn't agree more about the anhedonia. It has been a problem for me running concurrently with my pmo addiction. After the streaks I've completed this year, especially during the 97 day full reboot, I could feel everything. I could not only be in a state of happiness, but in eudemonia. Not just emotionally, but physically. My skin and senses have been ultra-sensitive, like never before. I can feel the wind, its temperature and pressure against me at all times, even with a jacket on. I think I could learn to estimate the speed in knots and direction with a little practice!

    Another thing to keep in mind, just as a suggestion, is that a person ultimately controls their own emotions. This is a big deal to me. When I was using pmo, everything everybody said carried the weight of the world. It's no wonder that if the cashier at the store didn't say "hi" the right way, I felt like I was headed for the coffin.

    What I learned was that if I "make the decision" to control what my emotions are, that is what they will be. No one else has any input on that matter, except God. If I decide to let go of negativity, loneliness, sadness, emptyness, and choose to be happy right now, I believe that I will. And it's my opinion that God will be in agreement with me, unless I've done something really horrible. And doing horrible things, I actively avoid!


    The last comment, and I apologize for the length of this, is to learn the difference between a
    Dopamine SPIKE and
    an ACHIEVEMENT-BASED DOPAMINE LEVEL

    The difference is that dopamine, that comes from "tangible achievement, through effort, risk-taking, struggle, intelligence, study, hard-work, etc." will not SPIKE. It will be the right amount.

    A DOPAMINE SPIKE is what happens when a person binges on a reward that occurs IN THE ABSENCE of achievement. This happens by eating candy, drinking coffee, using drugs, alcohol, smoking cigarettes, gambling, pmo, travelling, and many, many more.

    The dopamine that happens through exercise or practicing a musical instrument is an ACCEPTABLE amount of dopamine, because it is EARNED though achievement. Practicing an instrument is difficult on the easiest material, I know, I am a musician, and it is hard work. I live in a music city, recorded an album, etc.

    To nail that impossible riff on piano is WORTHY of the RIGHT AMOUNT of DOPAMINE which IS NOT a SPIKE.
     
  15. Nalex25p

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    Hey man, thank you for your comment! It really encouraged me hearing from someone who has gone through similar struggles, with anhedonia and such. Especially the part about the cashier thing is totally true with me. I also agree with everything you said!

    The one thing though about the music point is that when I’m playing piano 95% of the time I’m just playing around old songs I know and improvising, NOT practicing. It doesn’t really take any effort at all I’m just enjoying what I’m doing instantly... doing this for hours at a time is what I think is draining my energy/creativity. I seriously hardly have the motivation to practice, I just “play around” all day. I definitely see what you’re getting at, I think I just wasn’t clear about this in my post.
     
  16. You misunderstood him. He is talking about the laws of God to remain pure which he has discovered is for our own benefit.
    So he is grateful to God.
     
  17. control your life

    control your life Distinguished Fapstronaut

    Some things are true ,despite you believe it or not , doesnt matter
     
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    Brooooooo, Much Love for the streak, and I must say I almost got goosebumps reading this because I could've wrote the same passage you wrote word for word, I been addicted to porn since about 9 years old and God has been talking to me for a while now letting me know as soon as I stopped I would be granted the ability to absolutely everything I can think of. Have you stumbled upon any enlightenment recently. This is just too weird how similar the stories are. I am a producer by the way so I also play the piano but In addition, have been taking cold showers and intermittent fasting and eating raw organic foods (non- hybridized) and I was finally able to stop my habits, and I will also say whenever feel like it's too cold to take an ice cold shower, I may cheat with a warm one and urges begin to come back, it's weird how comfortability works; it works never in your favor. But pleaseee reply to this if you stumbled upon any eye opening information because this is to weird feel like we may be in sync
     
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  19. Nalex25p

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    Hey man, yeah it’s crazy seeing other people with such similar experiences! It feels awesome that we can share and help each other on this journey, and seeing people having success. I feel like the more i continue to abstain from these addictions the more childlike and free I become, and I feel this is how God intended life to be, to walk in purity of heart and mind. Though for me some things are healing slower than others, the first things I noticed were amazing energy and confidence. You can look at my recent post I made were I listed all the healthy habits I’ve been doing and all the benefits I’ve had within 47 days.
    The cold showers implementation I think was pivotal in me actually gaining my highest streaks. I’m 2 days from passing my highest streak right now! Hot showers do something to our bodies I think that induces urges. I also feel too cold to do them sometimes, so sometimes I take only slightly cold showers or even just skip showering that day. Like you mentioned about comfortability, too much comfort can be a bad thing. That’s why we need beneficial stress to grow and be productive, doing things like fasting, exercise, and cold showers are all beneficial stressors that can strengthen our bodies and our mental ability to stay disciplined and healthy.

    In regards to “eye openening information” I would have to say it was discovering the website/blog of Todd Becker gettingstronger.com. He’s were I first learned about cold showers, intermittent fasting etc... I highly recommend you check out his articles on addiction, hormesis, opponent process theory of emotion, cold showers, and others if you have not. He goes extremely in depth into the biological foundations of overcoming addictions and cravings and getting control over your health.
    I’ve actually never felt so in control of my bad habits and cravings in my life. I hope we continue to keep progressing bro.
     
  20. AimanHakim

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    Nice one, may god help you go further and i may use some of your tips mate Thanks a lot
     
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