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NoFap + Porn Viewing?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by foxtrot, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. foxtrot

    foxtrot New Fapstronaut

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    Does anyone here do nofap but allow themselves casual porn viewing? Maybe just a few minutes at a time?

    I'm primarily interested in this to gain energy and although I'm just a few days in, I notice a bump in energy when I bring up a video. Is this Dopamine + Testosterone?

    Beginning masturbation is a bad idea and edging even worse, but if you strictly stick to the "don't touch your penis" rule, is there any problems with this?

    I'd love to hear your thoughts/opinions.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. scotey73

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    You're not going to find much support here for "frequent porn viewing".

    Many of us are trying to quit porn addiction, so viewing porn even once in a while, for us, can elongate our recovery process.

    At the same time, what exactly are you trying to gain from watching porn in the first place? That "bump in energy" is indeed dopamine, and in my belief watching porn fuels addictive tendancies, even if your just trying to quit masturbating.

    I find it's much better to get through the process of NoFap by quitting porn cold turkey. Period. No excuses.

    I guess everyone is their own man, and I guess if you can watch porn and never, ever, get the urge to masturbate, then fine. Do what you gotta do. But, you must ask yourself, what are you trying to gain from watching porn? What does it do for you, exactly?
     
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  3. foxtrot

    foxtrot New Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for the fast response. Sorry, I wrote frequent (which sounds compulsive) when I meant casual. I'm sure though that there is a degree of compulsion to it. Could just be a bad habit I'm trying to rationalize.

    What am I trying to gain from porn? Consciously my only goal is to maximize my body's energy. The little bit of psuedo-tantric philosophy I've read has perhaps caused me to see the goal differently. My thought here is to not suppress sexual energy completely, but try instead to take that energy and channel it towards a greater goal. I think the "superpowers" I've read people describe here are that principle in action.

    Maybe we could say that sexual energy and physical ejaculation are two separate but related things. I'm only trying to break my addiction to the latter.
     
  4. crushurcravings

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    I recommend studying neuroplasticity and porn addiction. A lot of people justify getting their dopamine hit(s) through porn viewing while abstaining from Masturbation and Orgasm. A lot of guys don't seem to realize that porn is what is unnatural. Porn is what our evolutionary brain cannot process properly without over-stimulating our reward circuit. Porn is the reason that guys suffer from Porn Induced sexual dysfunctions.

    Check this link for additional information http://www.reuniting.info/node/7121
     
  5. Well said. And yes Foxtrot watching porn even without MO still give ones brain that dopamine hit and because PMO addiction is actually a dopamine addiction watching porn can slow your reboot down to a crawl if not lead its undoing all together.

    Classic Video that most people have already seen, still really valuable to check out.

     
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  6. This is actually a very interesting perspective. Many people including my self believe that sexual energy and creative energy are the same thing and so through using PMO we waste our energy upon images on a screen rather then using that energy to express ourselves through our art and life's works. Indeed one should embrace sexuality and not shut ones self off to it during their reboot but it is important to seek out true natural sexuality and love rather then the illusion of sexuality that porn endeavors to sell us. Here are a few videos on this concept and look in to spirituality and sexuality. I would still highly recommend that you try not to watch porn if you are committed to getting free of a PMO addition and get a greater sense of motivation and energy. I hope that this helps :)



     
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  7. KeenEye

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    I think it's the orgasm and masturbating orgasm that is the real problem. Porn just MAKES you masturbate to orgasm. However, since they are so connected at this point (while we are on our nofap journey), porn and masturbation are Hansel and Grettel. I did exactly what you said, I was abstinent for 18 days but watched porn for 2-3 hours in the course of 2 days, I had many erections but did not touch myself at all. 3 days later I had a wet dream, and I felt the effects of masturbation happen. I was very tired on that day. Now, it's pure mode for me.
     
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  8. You're not getting yourself anywhere for porn-viewing advice here. If your end goal is to just get the energy benefits of NoFap (please don't) then so be it, your life your choices.

    Yes, because you're not discharging all that energy out your junk you're gonna feel energized, your energy levels will increase. But if you watch porn, your brain's still going to produce dopamine, just not as much as when paired with orgasm. That means that your addiction's not going anywhere and it may get worse too. Not only are you at risk of jerking off again but if you're here already, might as well kill this addiction. Your brain's sensitivity levels will go back up and you're less likely to develop other symptoms like porn-induced ED without the addiction.

    Rubbing your penis and getting semen out of you is NOT a necessity in life. You discharge that old semen through wet dreams naturally and you'll feel way better when you utilize that excess, sexual energy for better things than literally wasting it. You won't die, you won't get sick, it only brings benefits, don't let society today mess with you man.
     
  9. justcauseiamnot

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    Okay, look lets not try to "scold" anyone for posting a honest perspective on this forum...

    We all have different goals and different journeys here... I understand that yours has something to do with channeling your sexual energy to different areas.

    This is an interesting perspective too, and I hope you eventually share some of this information with us.

    But this is what I have learned about watching porn and NoFap... My goal is to not PMO, I don't restart my clock for watching P, and I don't restart it if I accidentally wake up with wet bedsheets; O. I have watched porn during my NoFap, occasionally and I'll say this, It almost ALWAYS leads to relapse. This is just your brain rationalizing that porn is okay as long as your don't edge, in reality it just makes you want to PMO like a fucking monkey! A while ago I watched some porn, then thought about the porn all week afterwords and eventually ended up watching more porn (addiction) and then relapsing.

    Its much easier to just stay away from it, keep your mind away from porn cause its like a snowball rolling down a hill once you let that seed be planted.

    If your brain is telling you that you "should" watch porn, its time to check yourself. After a couple of days on NoFap, you will have PLENTY of sexual energy stored up to channel, no need for any extra sexual energy.
     
  10. RayRay8

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    I too believe in sexual and or creative energy and believe it can be channelled but it can only be done so when it is ready to do so. It cannot be forced our creative energies must be so full that they are stirring in purity and then our energy will rise like a sleeping beast towards our higher connections with ourselves and through our crown vjakra back into the universe .and we must release the energy at this point and that release through our crown chakra is the relaxing of that sexual energy once it has become pure creative energy. I know of this. My concern is this what happens when you forget and you have this Ken uo energy that you are happy for yourself and a little scared of yourself at the same time and even others may become a little s qres of you with all that energy running through you. I read a book .it was a Christian book. I'm not Christian by the way but it said that these people had classes to help each other discover there own gifts and talents. And that there comes a time when the energy of a persons. Creativity reaches a point where its stuck and it won't grow and it scares people. We must also Learn how to handle our superpowers once we get them.
     
  11. RayRay8

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    so that we don't scare ourselves or others away but still be able to use them for the betterment of our own Lives
     
  12. Happiness

    Happiness Fapstronaut

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    I like this guy 100x better than Cute Hipster. lol
     
  13. Do whatever works for you. The goal is to NOT focus on masturbation and instead focus on productive things like finding work or continuing your education. If you can balance porn and your finances, go for it.
     

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