The longer the streak the worse the binge when you relapse?

It depends. Based on the neurobiology of drug addictions, and porn addiction matches (or overlaps) very well with it, you can expect that it follows a trend similar to the attached figures.
As you see, in smokers, relapses follow an exponentially decreasing curve, with sobriety as the asymptotic value. Interindividual differences may affect decay times in different addicted individuals (genetics, age of first consumption, willpower, etc.), but the general trend is going to be an exponential decay.

The other curve shows that cravings follow an inverted U shape curve. This is in agreement with neurological studies of addiction, where reward center cells dendrites start to proliferate, turning you hypersensitive to cues linked to your addiction (for us, being online alone, pop ups, etc.). That makes cravings surge after an addiction is quitted, making your brain vulnerable to relapse. However, after about amonth, if you press on, sensitized cells return to the normal shape. So it means you are going to suffer big time withdrawals the first month, after that, it should be OK. The more you abstain, the higher the protective factor (the increasing line in the graph).

 

Your assertion is based on a false premise. You say you had no artificial sexual stimulation for 17 days and then said that you masturbated several times in that period using your imagination. In terms of abstinence, 17 days is a short period. And the only thing you abstained from was porn. You were still getting dopamine highs from masturbation and additional sexual gratification from sexualised images in your mind.

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There is also a factor that you do not remark on. Your choice. You speak about this binging as if you have no control and it just happens and takes its own course. We all have control and the ability to decide what we will do or not do.

This thread is merely rationalisation on your behalf. You have justified to yourself the fact that you need porn regularly.

 

Man: 17 days, masturbating twice... i would not call that a streak honestly. You got to put more effort to the game, honestly, and try to reach at least a 90 days full reboot.

I relapsed after a 700 days streak and went back on track since then.

 

Soft mode reboot all day! I agree. I only have sex thou, but I will masterbate again without p0rn after 90 days.

 

If you search nofap on google, first thing you read is that a reboot takes 90 days to be completed. That amount of time was not selected randomly but has a purpose: is an evaluation of the avarage time the user needs to complete the process.

That's why a reboot is NOT completed after 17 days and 2 quick jerkies.

 

Btw, i do have sex. I'm not interested in chastity.

 

100% i couldn't go that long without sex. Plus, I think hard mode is only really necessary for extreme PIED cases. Otherwise you're just torturing yourself.

 

It's not impossible. As IGY said, you're operating under a false premise. You're believing lies and they are stopping you from succeeding. Plenty of people have done a hard mode 90 day reboot, so clearly it is not impossible. If you don't want to do it, that's your choice, but know that it is a choice. It's not because it's impossible, it's because you're choosing not to.

 

I've read lots of relapse reports from men here who experience the opposite: they try porn after a long reboot, realise what a huge mistake they made, and come back here. So what you say is not true of everybody, but it is true of me. I remember relapsing after a porn free streak of 22 months. I didn't just dip a toe in to test the water, as so many do, I dived back in. I know this is the wrong thing to say here since it is not very motivational, but the relapse felt amazing. It reminded me of the first time I ate meat after being vegetarian for 21 years. There is nothing like abstaining from something you enjoy for heightening the enjoyment when you eventually return to it.

But I'll stress again, not all men here respond to a relapse after a long streak in the same way; some just try briefly, realise their mistake, and then quit again.

For those like @skaterdrew and me I think the message is clear: relapsing is dangerously triggering because of the heightened enjoyment. That's why I still think of myself as an addict after 1,238 days, and that's why I am determined not to relapse, ever.

 

True. It's imperative that we don't binge after a relapse.

 

For me, getting laid can be a direct consequence of being on nofap.

I did not have an active sexual life when i started my journey, but eventually i found the resources to improve myself with girls along it.

I'm 100% sure that if i kept M'ing every 3 days because i didn't have girls, i would never start getting laid.

I just said ok, from today i'm gonna ejaculate only with girls, and i kept my word since then.