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Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Guyman, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. Guyman

    Guyman New Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys, this is a really big step for me. Been watching porn since I was about 12-13, and I'm almost 30 now. Yea like everyday, even a few times a day, for that many years...

    I have horrible social anxiety, depression, insomnia, balding etc...

    My question is: Is the "bad" part the actual masturbation, porn, or ejaculation, or all of the above? If I have sex with a girl once in a while, will it keep giving me these anxiety symptoms or does it have to do more with watching porn?

    I'm very new to this, so thanks in advance for the help!
     
  2. bartledoo

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    Watching porn isn't as bad itself. But you know, who watches porn without being tempted to jack off?

    Your brain isn't designed for orgasming to pixels. So when you do blow a load while watching porn, your brain really forces itself to make it happen. Thats not good for it, and overtime it causes some effects.
     
  3. IGY

    IGY Guest

    @bartledoo, what? "Watching porn isn't as bad itself"! This is an anti-porn website. If you don't agree with that, why are you even here? Porn has no redeeming features. :mad:
     
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  4. Samo1999

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    Hi Guyman, I've done a lot of reading on that very subject and what I've found is that all parts are "bad"; the porn, the masturbation, and ejaculation. Together they rewire the brain to crave the ultimate goal, ejaculation. I've tried so many times to only look at porn, or just girls in bikinis or even wearing clothes and the result is always the same, I end up masturbating to nude pics or porn eventually. I too have done this for over 23 years since early in age 11 or 12 and I now have about 9 days fap free. For me, if I want to stop I need to not do anything that draws me to porn in a unhealthy way. Later on I've seen people learn to develop sexually healthy habits with a partner, but I believe it's hard to maintain no porn and sex for me right now. Maybe it's not true for others, but for me it is. Right now it's everything I can do find spirituality and a peace inside. I have a gf who is awesome and if I ask for space while remaining close emotionally she waits until the time is right.

    What I'm struggling with right now is not being able to get aroused without porn, or seeing new girls in person without imaging having sex with them. I've found I have to force myself not to look at cute girls and focus on something else. I feel bad to because I don't feel like this about my gf and I sincerely hope it gets better, but I've rarely gone this long without doing it and never for longer than a month, do we'll see. I hope this helped, good luck to you.
     
  5. bartledoo

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    I'm telling the guy that they're all bad. But if you can somehow manage to just watch porn without jacking off, its not as bad as watching porn and jacking off. You shouldn't do either one, but using porn for solo sex screws your brain at a higher degree.
     
  6. perusan

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    I would disagree with you. I thought this was a site for people who are addicted to porn. I don't believe the site has a moral stance against porn itself. It is a support network for those who have been negatively affected by porn. Certainly you can urge people not to watch porn because it can be damaging, addictive, exploitative. But I don't think you can tell someone to leave the site just because they recognise a weakness in themselves rather than condemning porn.

    You, me, everyone here and thousands of others had something lacking in our selves and an addiction took hold. But porn didn't do that to us. Porn is just what we are addicted to. We did it to ourselves - by not respecting our bodies, by not respecting our relationships, by not respecting our commitments, by not recognising when something has become obsessive. Porn does not make us addicts. We are addicts that use porn. I thought recognising that is the first step to recovery.
     
  7. bartledoo

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    Actually I wanna give a different answer to the OP.

    Masturbation, porn, and ejaculation, they're all bad. But doing one of them isn't as bad as doing all of them combined. Like as in taking baby steps.
     
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  8. Guyman

    Guyman New Fapstronaut

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    Thanks a lot of the support and replies guys. If I want to reboot (just learning about this term today), can I still have sex with women? Will it harm me? With absolutely porn or masturbation ofcourse...
     
  9. bartledoo

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    It is recommended you don't. You need to give your wang complete rest, for rebooting. That means no fapping, no edging, no banging. But its just during the 3 months.
     
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  10. Knight Solaire

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    You can still have sex with women if you are doing normal mode. Hard mode is when you are trying to get through this addiction without any sort of orgasm. While harder (obviously) it is said to yield better and faster results.

    I am doing normal mode and if you would like to check out all of my benefits and thoughts, I have a link to my pseudo-success story in my signature. Good luck my friend. I hope you find your way.

    Edit: Porn is bad, masturbation is bad, but ejacualtion isn't inheretly bad unless it is used with porn due to the levels of dopamine that rush through the brain which is what causes your addiction.
     
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  11. Knight Solaire

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    @Samo1999, you sound like you might need to do some research on doing nofap in a relationship. I've been in a relationship for almost two years and just started nofap in November. Many, many wonderful couples are on here and you may find some really interesting and relatible things to help.
     
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  12. Samo1999

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    Are there any couples in particular that you recommend I contact?
     
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  14. Samo1999

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    That's great thanks! I will definitely get into contact with them and check out your journals! I'm interested in anyone who has experience in this and any advice would be great!
     
  15. Haggis

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    Hey @Samo1999

    You sound pretty similar to me, heh. I struggled with very similar feelings regarding my wife. With my heavily religious background, I found that sexuality/orgasm/all that was separate in my mind from my relationships. I had a GF through high school and we never did anything beyond kissing, but I was still horny and would go home and jerk off about one thing or another. It was a struggle for me to merge the two back together and to put sexuality and intimacy back into my relationship.

    Its great once it works out though :)

    Best of luck!
     
  16. Limeaid

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    We continued to have sex during reboot but my husband was still having ED issues 9 months later (another reason some choose hard mode). We ended up then abstaining from orgasm for him but still have sexual intimacy. Then his ED went away and we have a great sex life.

    The ultimate key is to not engage in ANY porn fantasy during sex to get hard, stay hard or orgasm. If you do you will not reboot as it is keeping the neural pathways of PMO activated. During sex with a woman make sure you are preseng and focused on her and pleasure.
     
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  17. perusan

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    This is so so true and perfectly put. Thank you.
     

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