Chastity device at night to help with unconscious masturbation?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Deleted Account, Jan 31, 2022.

  1. Hello everyone,
    I am doing nofap and never succeded going beyond 45 days either because of me being not determined enough, or because of a very problematic form of masturbation: I actually end up masturbating in a semi-conscious state (I barely remember when I wake up). It's not a nightfall or wet dream, I can actually distinguish the two. I just find myself with a strong chaser effect the day after, when I wake up... and I feel all the shitty stuff you get from a relapse (but I don't from wet dreams).

    So what I am asking you is: I would have already gone beyond my limit of 45 days maybe even more than once if it was not for this problem, so it's something not under my control... my willpower is strong enough to resist, but I need to make it impossible for me to masturbate while not fully conscious. Would a chastity device help in your opinion?
    Does any of you that ever had a similar problem have any suggestions?
     
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  2. PrinceDaniel

    PrinceDaniel Fapstronaut

    Do not do it! I wore a chastity device for a few months, and it had harmful effects on my dick. You can't help getting erections at night, and getting a strong healthy boner in a chastity device does not only hurt a lot, it can also cause damage to your penis. Because of this, my dick is crooked, and I am still working on fixing the damage after a few months. You see, these devices are designed to hurt and harm your dick, please stop even considering it.

    I understand the frustrating feeling, because you can't control it. Wearing underwear in bed maybe helps? I hope you find what you seek.
     
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  3. Did you wear it 24/7?
    I am planning to use it when I feel excited before sleeping or when I can't focus studying, since it will discourage unwanted erections... I heard it can be very harmful if used for prolonged periods of time however! Sorry to hear your story
     
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  4. IGY

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    I've never had it and do not have any suggestions, sorry.

    But I can tell you what it is called - sexsomnia.
     
  5. I have experienced this problem at times, especially in my teenage years shortly after I had discovered myself. It seems like a very unfair temptation to catch a person when he is not fully conscious. I always felt very guilty afterward, as though I should have stopped myself somehow, yet I was never sufficiently self-aware in the moment to do so...except sometimes when the event gradually brought me to a state of wakefulness and I hadn't quite peaked yet. By that point, it's near impossible to stop. It was such an exasperating problem. I actually sought counsel from more than one church pastor over it--one of whom later left the ministry and I felt guilty for perhaps having had a part in it, because he didn't have any answer nor help for me, and probably felt very bad about it.

    But I did, perhaps accidentally, stumble upon a solution. Sometimes I was too tired to undress before sleeping, and I discovered that if I were wearing jeans with a belt, it was usually enough to keep things from starting in my sleep. If you think you might still have the dexterity in your sleep to overcome this, I would suggest simply buckling the belt on the backside. This is not a chastity device per se, and is as comfortable as your daily wardrobe would allow--but it might just suffice in your situation.

    Later on, when I did my six months+ of total abstinence, I had no problem with this. I had changed my tactic to taking the battle to my thoughts, rather than to my hands. The thoughts is where the real crux of it all is to be found. Please see the tips linked in my signature for more.

    I hope this helps.
     
  6. PrinceDaniel

    PrinceDaniel Fapstronaut

    No, I wore it only 1- 3 hours a day.
     
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  7. Thank you all guys,
    y'all helped me a lot
     
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  8. AlexFightsAlex

    AlexFightsAlex Fapstronaut

    Is it possible that this semi-conscious masturbation is kind of a symptom of another thing, such as a stress, or uneasiness, or something like that? Has anyone experienced this and could report any benefit from abstaining from PMO? This matter is interesting, because even if you are not conscious about the act, the consequences are still there.
     
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  9. For my part, the closest I had ever been to porn when I first experienced this symptom was the time I found, out on a trail through the bush, a torn and faded sheet of paper that might have come from a playboy magazine. The picture was far from clear, having been in the weather who knows how long, and just enough detail remained to know that it was a naughty thing.

    I've never been a porn addict or consumer. For that I am thankful. My addiction has been only to the O. I did go through a lot of emotional insecurity and felt that no one cared about me, so the O could have been something of a comfort measure--a misguided attempt to make myself happy. However, I also had other issues related to sleep in general.

    I used to sleep so soundly that the fire alarm would not have awakened me. Literally. Classmates once attempted to pull a prank on me by putting a very loud vacuum (a Hoover) in my room and setting it up to come on at around 4 a.m. I slept through it. They were a bit chagrined that their prank, in my case, had been for nothing.

    My mother took me to a doctor when I was in gradeschool, who prescribed some sort of medication that was supposed to help me not to sleep so soundly. I took it a couple of times, but then did not feel it was a good idea to be taking chemicals that would affect my brain, so I stopped. I never took medications of that sort again.

    So in @Lil badass's case, he may suffer from some "sleep issues" as I did, which have absolutely nothing to do with porn or masturbation. It's a separate issue which merely complicates things. Unfortunately, it is a rather embarrassing condition, and may make one nervous to go out camping with the guys or anywhere where sleeping next to others is expected. It is a real problem, one which can result in bed-wetting, too; but I would never suggest that it implies any mental disorder. I don't think being able to sleep soundly is as much of a problem as its opposite--sleeping so lightly that one awakens at the chirp of a cricket. The only problem is that one's body continues to have some function during sleep as if one were awake, even though the mind is entirely oblivious to it.

    Yes, it may have some similarities to somnambulism, but I think it is a more common problem than that.
     
  10. ProminentPosterior

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    Pretty much this. You say you can get this decent streak then you unconsciously touch yourself in your sleep and use that as an excuse to consciously touch yourself. The fact that you use this phenomenon as a springboard for relapse is the real issue, not in the incidents in and of themselves.

    I mean, I’ve woken up to some really potent sex dreams where I was thrusting into the air, a very slimy minority of which culminated in nocturnal emissions, but I never used those as justifications for a relapse. Simply an acknowledgment that damn, I be horny af in my sleep.

    Tl;dr: I’d be a lot less worried about what I do in my sleep than what I do when I’m awake.
     
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  11. I literally go through the same thing as you all the damn time. Its called sexsomnia, what has worked for me so far is wearing underwear while sleeping. Feel free to private message me if you want more information
     
  12. Hard Mode

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    I think a device can be a great help. It's tough, but totally worth it!
     
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