Replacing that feeling of an orgasm

This is a really good question. In my experience, I’ve found that vigorous exercise can give a similar feeling, though that’s probably a more obvious one.

Service to others is a big one for me. Doing someone a good turn without a thought of return. Helping someone in need. Thinking of myself less and actively seeking out ways to be helpful - even if it’s picking up trash off the street. The satisfaction that follows such an action is a better overall feeling than orgasm, imo.

Talking to strangers is a good one too. Make small talk. Complimenting someone. Being fearless and treating even strangers as friends, approaching them with good will and tolerance. Seeing their face light up when they can feel you are radiating good will towards them. That’s a feeling that no orgasm can provide, at least for me.

Beauty. Opening myself up to beauty in art, literature, nature - and in other human beings. When I go on long streaks, I seem to be spiritually tuned to beauty - to the point where I can break into tears at the sheer wonder of existence. That I am here, now, at all, is a miracle, a catastrophe, terrifying, awe inspiring. PMO blinds me to this fact. Abstaining clears my spiritual vision so I can see and feel the holy terror that is being a human in this world. Orgasm doesn’t do that.

Essentially, I feel like orgasm is temporary forgetfulness of self, in a pleasurable way. I find that I can forget myself by getting lost in life, in service to others, and in beauty. In playing my role well and truly and impeccably. That’s a pleasure that is beyond orgasm. It’s the pleasure of finding myself by losing myself - not in some cheap way, but in a deeply meaningful way. Peace.

 

I did a bunch of sexual talk online which made my brain it was basically masturbation but mental. I regonized the tired point than quit the talk. I than noticed the urge was not directed at masturbation anymore. Has allowed me to go 21 days. I've noticed now that I've had the energy make my sleeping act odd but the urge of masturbation is not there.

It allows me to replace it with another thing I like to do. The energy. The more nights, the energy will go down allowing sleeping to return to normal. Luckily no sexual urges now.

 

honestly bro, don't replace an addiction by another

if you want to have dopamine shot without PMO I advice you :
- to do sport (I personally do boxing and work out and it helps a lot)
- the fast that you mention and eating you're favourite dish the week end is a good idea

but forget about nicotine this will lead you to regret if you become addicted

 

@I Hate PMO I had the same idea with music
"Hunting" and listening to lots of music online while feeling like a millionaire is the most similar thing to a pmo session I can think of. Maybe I should also allow gaming.
I hope I can replace pmo with that. I'll pretend as if listening to music was something sinister lol
and when I'll get p flashbacks I'll start thinking of music, doing a little research on the music I like or put music on. Is it possible to trick the mind that way? I need to test that out!

Generally, replacement is a good idea. But:

As for dopamine: I recommend Skandinavian Bob (check him out on yt) he talks and educates about rebooting as well as the reward system and dopamine fasting. Also check out the content of Dr. Ligh Treish, who treats porn addiction patients.
And if you want to get really deep into the subject of dopamine and neurochemistry check out Andrew Huberman.

As I understand it, stopping to watch porn means reducing dopamine spikes. In the long run, the consequence will be that your "new normal" will be better, meaning you have a higher dopamine base level. This equals more happiness and drive.
Activities like drinking alcohol, listening to your favorite music, gaming, social media or internet browsing also let your dopamine spike.
But the problem that we have to deal with is short term dopamine deficit. So when you reboot you better don't stop with all your dopaminergic activities at the same time. Or you might end up down and depressed!

Of course we want the natural and healthy dopamine sources and not so much depend on things like (social) media to give us drive. So dopamine fasting means replacing sources of dopamine which equals habit replacement.

But as rebooters, we will simply not experience the high spikes of dopamine regularly anymore. So, as I see it, we can exchange it physically (running instead of jerking off) and mentally (changing believes, train a good mindset instead of entertaining sexual ideas) but we can't exchange the thrill and pleasure of the dopamine rush it provides us with.
Otherwise it wouldn't be so difficult, by the way.

Fasting and exercise are both very effective for pushing your base level of dopamine. But especially fasting is not easy to build as a hobby.
My idea with the music is not so much about dopamine by the way. I rather came from the habit / behavior perspective: of course doing exercise everytime I'm tempted to engage in pmo would be perfect. But maybe it's easier to do more exercise on the light day (metaphorical speaking), but in the dark hours when my flesh is weak and my mind rebellious have a ritual that I engage in, which isn't completely healthy but which provides me with similar feelings, a kind of mock-pmo.

 

Fasting works for me too. Then, I’d make a home cooked meal, and it tastes great. Some dopamine and some serotonin too.

Learned to play several musical instruments. Replaced M with strumming a guitar or playing the fiddle. Kept my hands busy on the keyboard or piano. I’d reach this “flow” state to replace that orgasm feeling. And I’d be at it for hours! During gigs or practicing at home.

Also played video games that take hours, days, or months to complete tasks. Instead of instant gratification/rewards, I’d learn that some tasks take time or teamwork to complete. Enjoying the journey, not just the destination.

Hope that helps.