Girls find you unattractive if you're not on semen retention

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Hate_Porn_From_Passion, May 11, 2023.

  1. Spiritual Immunity

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    Are you a white knight too bro? It’s no wonder you think the way you do. You’re exactly the type of guy that red pill fools cater too.
    Is your wife a gold digger? Is that why you think women care about “looking financially successful?” Sorry to hear that man. I would hate to have a woman be with me because of money and not because she actually loves me. That’s a shame.
     
  2. Sleeperhead

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    I have been in god awful form on nofap for the past 6 weeks, but I am starting to improve and get better. I have had multiple long streaks and always get more positive vibes from the girls.

    Anyway, the other day I was in the supermarket and getting served by this girl who is fairly attractive. I've never felt so awkward in my life. My voice is weak, I look unhealthy despite taking care of myself, and I have zero ability to make eye contact whatsoever with this girl. I can't stand in the queue and wait to get served without fidgeting. Granted I am a million miles away from SR and have been fapping every day near enough.

    Whenever I have a streak on the go and I am staying away from PMO, this never happens. In fact much the opposite, my vibe completely changes, I am way more confident, deeper voice, look better, feel better, etc. So when people say that nofap has nothing to do with attraction, it's just plain ignorant really.
     
  3. Another thing which I would like to mention is a term "sexually disciplined men". Girls find you unattractive if you're not sexually disciplined man because according to them those guys should be avoided because they are low value men.
    So I'm connecting all this with semen retention and nofap.
     
  4. Anyone's else opinion about this topic I'm interested to know what others would say?
     
  5. Sleeperhead

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    I have been in great nofap form as of late.

    I'll tell you my experience. I am just under about 2/3rds of the way there I reckon, and every week that has gone by I have noticed ever more female attraction the further I have got. Mainly girls checking me out, some on the sly, some overtly locking eyes with me.

    I can tell you the number one reason why this is because I look a lot better and healthier. My eyes are a deeper blue, it's very noticeable. My skin looks darker and way more healthier. Also, my hair is thicker and my facial hair is filling in more, again very noticeable. I know this isn't in my head because when my sister last saw me she thought I was wearing makeup or something because I looked so well. I have had people say that I look so tanned, when I haven't even been getting much sunshine.

    These changes are down to an increase in fertility, I have been keeping fapping to a minimum and my sperm cells have been building up, and mother nature wants me to get girls now.

    I feel a lot more motivated to talk to girls, there is still a blockage keeping me from talking to strangers, my sex drive is all over the place, one day I really want it, the next day I have zero interest. My sleep is also completely fucked and is really impacting my quality of life. Once I fix that though and get to the end of this retention cycle I think it will be incredibly easy for me to get girls.
     
  6. depeche69

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    Every 5-10 days after relapse, my co-worker and especially my female co-worker treat me like shit. They refuse to greeting back, reacts aggressive when i ask something or start to talk...
    But after some time in a streak magic happens.
    They smile at me, start conversation, laughing about my jokes. I can be passive and its like magnetic.
    But it also has disadvantages. I'm not used to this amount of attention and feel overwhelmed. Furthermore, you attract attention from women you don't want and unintentionally hurt their feelings.
     
  7. pete379

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    Thank you for that well thought out, essay?
    I wonder if you could expand on this a bit, what does protection look like?
    I mean Im pretty sure I would do every thing I could to not let my lady, ( if I had one or any lady) be harmed,
    but due to my size, lack of fighting skills, and the fact that im close to 60 would not be nearly as successful as many guys. What if I had some disability?
    am I doomed? Ive been hearing this alot lately, but we didnt have the internet when I was in my 20s so I guess ignorance was bliss.
    I once had a drunk woman a few years ago, at a party inquire about my sexual orientation in front of some people. (she knew I had previously been married and had 3 children) She then observed, "look at you, I could kick your ass"
    I should probably just call it a day right? I was married 16 yrs, just be happy with that?
     
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  8. Yes I Can Man

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    Probably spends money on her.
     
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    Seriously though: women cannot sense semen retention.

    This is a problem with men as a whole: we are inherently behaviourally deterministic, which means that we often miss the forest for the trees.

    Guys who "retain their semen" are guys who aren't furiously masturbating everyday like PMO users. That usually means he doesn't watch adult content, and most likely has no need for it. That's because he has natural access to relationships, so he doesn't use PMO as a coping mechanism.

    Men have this bad habit of looking at the behaviour of attractive men (the way they walk, talk, how they dress, treat women, their hobbies, etc), and then conclude that by copying behaviours, they will get the same results as those successful men. However, most men are ignoring the context (the genetics/looks of those men, their family background, their socioeconomic status, etc), which is why they often lack the results of these men after years and years of personal effort.

    This is the same reason why pick-up artists exist.

    I'm not saying don't retain your semen, but women don't have a sixth sense to discern whether you do or don't. She can just look at you in a split second and know whether or not she finds him attractive. There's nothing you can do to control that, just as we can't control what we are attracted to.

    The very concept of "semen retention" is oxymoronic; after abstaining for a lengthy time, you'll get a wet dream anyway.
     
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  10. Magic Bullets

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    I tend to agree with a lot of the previous post. For the most part SR and NF makes you feel great and women pickup on feelings and are often attracted to that energy. Do it because it feels good, that is the most important thing.
     
  11. Ghost101

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    What's the link of his channel?
     
  12. JLD

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    There are some people that seduce girls without being on semen retention (by being kind, charismatic, self-confident) but semen retention certainly helps.
     
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  13. Chavin1811

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    I'm starting to assume that the act of semen retention itself does not directly help you in "getting girls". It might cause your mood or confidence to go up like it does to me, but that's because I'm proud of my streak.
    I agree with this. The confidence that you may get from retention is only one of the many variables that are apart of the game of attraction. If you like a girl, go talk to her when it is appropriate, don't depend on your streak to do that.
     
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  14. HealingBodyandMind

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    My opinion is that it is better to be on a semen retention streak when talking to girls than to not be on one.

    However, I think a man who does PMO multiple times a week is too much, and that yes, a girl will not be attracted to him. But if a guy does PMO maybe once a week or once every two weeks, then I still think girls will find him attractive... but some guys get so destroyed internally and energetically that even one PMO session will destroy any chances to meet a girl

    in the end, its always better to be on semen retention and to never ejaculate unless with a girlfriend or wife... some guys would argue its better to never ejaculate at all though for health/spiritual reasons
     
  15. Sleeperhead

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    This is my experience, I have been fapping once every 1-2 weeks over the past 2 -3 months and I have noticed the attraction building every week, until recently where my sleep quality has dropped off a cliff and I have been looking and feeling shitty, and the signals from girls have dropped off massively. When I was getting good rest I was looking incredibly healthy and feeling really good in spells and getting attention, so I think the attraction is down to the way you feel and how you look rather than some invisible force/pheromones.
     
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  16. ZAk1

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    wrong, I have had girls tell me there boyfriend was ugly(yes they admitted it) but their confidence was so much they melted in the guys hand, Many girls will tell you the same thing, in fact most girls are probably more emotionally attracted to their partners than physically, to get a women confidence is 1. people who disagree usually don't have game, how many good looking guys get hardly any girls bc they cant talk to them
     
  17. Lol confidence comes naturally to people who are good looking. An ugly person with “confidence” usually comes across as fake or compensating. And you broke rule number 1, always take what women say about what they’re attracted to with a grain of salt. If they admit their boyfriend is ugly, they have to give you some bullshit reason to why they like them. When really it’s other reasons.
     
  18. Also if you’re muslim then women don’t even get to choose their husbands. The family arranges it. So as to not go insane they will find things to like about whoever they’re stuck with.
     
  19. pete379

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    Big and ugly will work (think beauty and the beast) Do not be small, just dont
    confidence with women is down stream from success with women.
    yes there are good looking guys that struggle with women, they are exceptions