This is how to stop wet dreams...

"Those of you who are rebooting and are serious about NoFap, you know that when you see a 'sexy' looking woman on the street, you want to look and fantasise about her. Your mind is telling you not to, but something else is going on in your soul, which causes you to look anyway. Your rational mind is telling you "hey, this might not help with your rebooting process", but your soul says "just go with the feeling. You know looking at her will make you feel great." Your soul wants you to have that dopamine rush, so bad."

THIS SENTENCE HIT ME RIGHT IN THE FACE LIKE A BULLET !!! Because i am already too deep in nofap, and haven't relapsed for a long time, and on the day of the 8 month beginning (240th day, 2 days ago) i met with a friend and went with him to the bus station to send him out, and there was this woman, i knew i should NOT look at her, but i kept looking, and i was having that internal conflict and all these feeling of relapsing started coming back and hitting me, and when my friend got on his bus, i purposely went to pass near her, because i wanted to get more, and i looked her again, she was maybe 30-35, after i passed her by, this terrible temptation HIT ME and i was getting hot waves all over me, trembling and stressed and sexually loaded and erected like hell and didn't know what to do, and i didn't know why this was happening to me, i thought: i am too deep in nofap, this shouldn't happen, my brain played me once again, i shouldn't do this, why i did it, and then the whole night i kept seeing this woman and thinking about her, i couldn't stop doing this, i thought i would have a WD, because even when i fell asleep she was in my head, and i didn't wanna fantasize or anything, but despite me not wanting it, my brain still did it involuntarily, and these huge temptations were upon me, and it started seeming like relapse isn't a big deal, a little relapse, it's not that much, come on ... (the hypofrontality effect) You know you want this woman", and my will power kept saying NO, NO NO NO, NO YOU DON'T WANT HER, NEITHER YOU WANT TO RELAPSE, YOU FOOL, COME BACK TO YOURSELF, and i hate this... I didn't relapse, i resisted once again. So i didn't have WD in the morning, and i managed to prevent them on the next night, but yesterday the same visualizations started repeating again, although not so strong as the night before. So it's still in my head and torments me, and it's like i cant get it off/out, and can't correct myself. And 2 days ago when i was falling asleep, i was so horny, one part of me wanted to have a WD, because it would feel like the relapse i desired, and would be the relieving of sexual tension i had built up.
It's like these two sides in me, constantly arguing with each other for these 3 days. So temptations come and go, and i managed to subside my erections with listening to some calm music i had on my phone, but i feel unstable again. I sinned and lusted in my mind/head. If you can help me with this, i would appreciate it.

I am sorry for the big post and it's a little off topic, but i just felt like i had to vent off this thing of my chest.

 

Yes, it helps definitely, thank you for this, for now i haven't thought about writing down points about this, but it's useful really. And all of the 3 points are very strong. And part 3, its the strongest i think. I have thought about this when i had severe urges, and it works. By the way i am feeling much better right now, compared to 3 days ago. But i still have this little feeling that when such strong temptation hits me, it messes up my reboot and it distorts my view on PMO and Nofap. But it's fine as long as relapse never happens. ;D

 

Why have i never had a wet dream?

 

This is sound advice. I'd like to add in by saying it's also a good idea to remind yourself throughout the day with a phrase (like an affirmation) that absolutely deters you from wanting to PMO. This also has the same effect I've noticed as meditation in that it stays with you into your subconscious and into your sleep. I used to have a wet dream problem and now I haven't had one in over 80 days at least.

I know there are differing opinions on wet dreams, and I always wanted to believe that it was okay and natural. I began to notice that every time I had a wet dream I had the same dreadful effects as if I PMO'd. It even at times ended up being the only thing that would lead me into relapse. I'd have that brainfog effect for a week after too.

Essentially the body and mind goes through nearly the same process when you have a wet dream as PMO. I don't believe sexual thoughts in your sleep are a natural means of the body trying to get rid of your semen as waste. I do find that my body has a more natural way of getting rid of it, and that seems to be when I use the toilet and I'm sure many can relate with this pee/poo-jaculate phenomenon. When that happens I don't seem to get the hangover effects attributed to PMO/wet dreams.

This is just like, my opinion man, but I think those who feel wet dreams are normal (like I used to think) have a hidden fear/disbelief of being unable to control/end the content of their dreaming, so they just willingly accept that wet dreams are a normal thing. It took me so many years of my life to finally realize that I could control them, stop them, and live a much cleaner and energetic reboot.

 

Did I just spot a Big Lebowski reference there?

 

Hey Rage,
I'm at day 21 hard mode - never done this before. I've basically always MO'd regularly unless I've been in a relationship. I've never had a wet dream. At the moment I'm feeling pretty well, sexually frustrated, and I was kind of hoping for a wet dream to happen because I thought this might give me a welcome release. Until I read your post I felt that this would be great because it would be an orgasm but it wouldn't be caused by masturbating.
I can see from your post that my goals at the moment may not be yours. My reboot is

to reset my head from any ill effects of porn I've jerked off to,

to diminish any problem of death grip caused by a life time of MOing (i've always been able to go for ages when having sex before I climax - which sounds good but it's not always what you both want!),

and most importantly to rid myself of the complacency cause by MOing and instead feel the energies, sexual and otherwise, which focuses me in everyday life and especially seems to connect me to others, and especially seems to make me connect with women, and them to me. I've definitely felt enhanced 'powers' if you like, in the last 21 days.

I'm afraid I'm quite ignorant of much of what you talk about, such as the benefits of indefinite semen retention (I would be an advocate for 'normal' mode i.e. I would like a girlfriend pretty soon). And I think in other threads you have mentioned such things as orgasm without ejaculation, which for me sounds impossibly difficult - I just can't imagine it. In fact, my whole being seems to be geared towards building up energy just to well ejaculate, but of course, inside a beautiful women, who, as you say, is a kindred spirit (with any luck!).
I think I understand that you believe that by retaining semen we maintain our essential energies, but what I was thinking was that provided one is happy to work hard to rebuild energy levels after release (by sex and resulting ejaculation) such as by working hard, playing sport, having fun, and working out at the gym etc, then this would be an acceptable alternative.
I'm really interested to know what you think. I may not have made complete sense, because I've written this rather quickly and it's late, so please feel free to ask me to clarify.
I really respect the time and effort you've put into to the explanations in your thread and I would like to understand.
Looking forward to your response papa,
Respect, Ned

 

Cheers Rage,
you're very helpful man.
I guess I'm eager to know how you orgasm without ejaculating. You say you often do this: is that when you're with a girlfriend? I fully intend to get the references you mentioned.
My other question would be: if a guys is intent on retaining semen then he has no real need to have a girlfriend. A women in your life can be fabulous, and it can be disruptive too! So what's a guy to do?
There's more questions but I've got to get to the gym!
Later my brother
Ned

 

Hey DT,
thanks for this site. It's really very interesting and helpful man.

 

Interesting read @AlltheRageBackHome.

Do you keep your eyes still and motionless and focus on a single point?

I've used meditation since I started rebooting and am particularly aware of its benefits, cept not knowing it could decrease the amount of wet dreams.

In my unconscious sleep, my wet dreams are incredibly frequent after 3 weeks of abstinence. I wouldn't mind if wet dream do or don't occour, more importatly, I'd rather prefer these involuntary sex dreams wouldn't occour - it's kind of annoying as if I'm recalling all of the scenes of porn I've seen in my dream, thank god I have a manageable chaser effect in which I don't act upon.

 

So Rage,
Thanks for answering my questions. I think you stumbled on something there in the first response. I think I find it hard to commit to relationships - and this whole NoFap thing is just the start - I've opened a can of worms and short of putting the lid on again, I just have to go through with it all.
The thing about women is this: I love them to death, they are amazing, and I can match their amazingness in my own sweet way, so that's all good!... but what I find in a relationship is that you have to keep fighting for your space, we are both slowly changing and developing, and although I wouldn't have it any other way, I think I've sort of chickened out a bit and thought: 'Fuck it, I'll just be on my own, then I can defo do what I want to!' And anyone reading this would immediately think - I'm selfish and short sighted. And well, I've come to realise that it's the truth, and now I need to get back out there, and nail some women, but much more than that - allow them into my life again! And ye, hopefully, be with one special soul-honey! That would be great!
And the reason I'm bothering you with all this baggage - is because I was suddenly thinking: 'Rats, if I'm going to retain all my semen and be like a monk then I'll never be able or need to get back out there in the big wide world and do some damage - I mean - get a girlfriend.
But I've realised that you don't mean that because we still feel horny and interact with girls and have sex when we retain semen. Right? Do you, by the way, ever ejaculate now? Or do you always manage to orgasm without releasing?
Anyway dude, I think you saw my journal, the books you recommended are on the way. So I'll be able to get a bit more info and understanding on your way of thinking.

Cheers, Ned

 

Congratulations on overcoming wet dreams! Meditation never worked for me though it did help to see the thoughts that may have been causing the spillage. One thing I'd like to say: no credible mystic advises meditation to stop wet dreams, instead they suggest sexual sublimation, and this is what worked for me. There are 4 ways to sublimate the sexual energy and exercise is one of them. I discovered that after walking for hours and burning 600 calories I would go to sleep that night and not have the usual wet dream. I provide men with a complete system to stop wet dreams on my Stop Wet Dreams Course because it really is a multifaceted problem that requires expertise in a number of areas, one of them being the mystical.

 

Samael Aun Weor did, and specifically mentioned that one should recite the mantra Ham-Sah during a meditation session to stop wet dreams. There have also been many mentions that meditation helps to prevent wet dreams in the study of Taoism and Nei Kung (internal energy). In my experience, i've also seen the streak between my NE getting longer since i practiced meditation.

Out of curiosity i dropped into your site and watched your video, and somewhere in it you mentioned that Samael Aun Weor said using sexual sublimation to prevent NE so that one can attract the right woman into one's life. Could you kindly point out to me in which book and paragraph was it mentioned? I've read books from Samael, and just want to keep highlights of it since i'm doing research about semen retention.

Anyways, I agree that working out, but not necessarily uninterrupted physical exercise will help with NE. But i believe the stronger factor is still meditation, plus fasting for 3 - 4 hours before sleep.

And if you really think about it. Meditation is also a form of sexual transmutation or sexual sublimation. Some Tibetan monks i've met in the past also suggested that transmutation is possible with meditation.