Am I in flatline?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by DeaffGrip, Aug 24, 2021.

  1. DeaffGrip

    DeaffGrip Fapstronaut

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    My streaks have always been on and off, for the Last 3 weeks I only watched p once and except that didnt even m. Before my 3 weeks I was most of the time excited when I was in bed with my gf, but now nothing seems to arouse me that much. Is this a flatline? And another thing, I regularly o with my gf. Should I keep doing this or should I quit o with my gf?

    When Will this crazy emotionless time endd is it forever? Please help
     
  2. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    Let's get some terminology settled first:
    • reboot: time during which you abstain from all artificial stimulation (porn, fetish items, social media, etc.) and masturbation
    • flatline: phase of your reboot in which you have very little sexual arousal, no boners, lack of motivation, and general bleakness
    • hardmode: reboot in which you additionally abstain from all sexual stimulation (sex, blowjobs, handjobs, etc.)

    While the effects of quitting porn can be seen in as little as one week, it will take a standard hard mode reboot to really begin a lasting recovery process. A standard hardmode reboot is 90 days of no PMO. It's great that you're starting to wane yourself off porn, but having inconsistent streaks with relapses can be just as damaging as, possibly even more than, a frequent-use porn addiction.

    Why is intermittent use (long abstinence with binges) an addiction risk?

    Watching any porn, engaging in any porn fantasy, or finding any stimulation from artificial sources has the same effect, no matter if you're masturbating or not. Doing so is making your problems worse. You need to stop, reset your counter, and start over if you want to heal.

    What if I masturbate (edge) or watch porn without orgasm?

    The Flatline is a loss of libido, erections, and sexual desire during a reboot, usually after week 3. What you have is just lack of those 3 things because of porn addiction and sexual exhaustion, so we would not call that a flatline.

    HELP! I quit porn, but my potency, genital size, and/or libido are decreasing (the Flatline)

    While being able to have enjoyable sex is the primary goal for NoFap and YBOP users, doing so during the reboot can slow down recovery. Porn addiction researchers have guesstimated the quickest way to alleviate symptoms of porn addiction is to do a 90-120 day hardmode reboot, follow by consistent rewiring. Having sex won't hurt your recovery, but will slow down your timetable. While myself and other reporting guys did a 90 day hardmode reboot and 45 days of rewiring to regain full sexual function, guys who had sex during their reboots reported times of 8 months to a year before regaining full sexual function. Give your mind a break, and hold off on the sex for a while.

    Rebooting with a partner: What about sex?

    What do I say to my mate?

    Porn-induced ED: What do I tell my girlfriend?
     
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  3. DeaffGrip

    DeaffGrip Fapstronaut

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    Wow amazing post, thank you so much you are very informative. I have one more question, what is the rewiring process like what do we do in 45 days of rewiring
     
  4. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    When you're done with your reboot you should begin to have sex again. During your reboot you are allowed, and actually encouraged, to socialize with women, flirt and date, and if you're lucky get some physical intimacy going; sex and her stimulating you are not allowed during your reboot, but pleasuring her is totally allowed, helps you get a more holistic idea of sex, and lesses urges you may get.

    Once the 90 days are up, all sexual activities are allowed. Engaging in all activities from flirting to kissing to fucking rewires your brain to them if they are fun, exciting, and pleasurable. Just like you wired yourself to porn for years by watching it and jerking off, you rewire yourself to real women and real sexual experiences by experiencing pleasure, intimacy, and connection with them.

    It is paramount to your recovery that you rewire soon after your reboot.
    • doing NoFap forever is unsustainable, and most relapse eventually
    • long periods of abstinence followed by binges can be just as addicting is frequent use
    • rewiring yourself to real women sets up roadblocks in the mind against porn addiction, making it harder for porn to take root again and making relapses less severe each time

    Hope this makes sense. Lmk if you have other questions.

    Do I have to have sex in order to rewire?

    Will stopping porn solve my problems?

    How do I know when I’m back to normal?

    Why is intermittent use (long abstinence with binges) an addiction risk?

    Rebooting with a partner: What about sex?

    Tools to Connect With Others

    Porn FAQs
     
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  5. DeaffGrip

    DeaffGrip Fapstronaut

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    Thank you so much, now I have a very clear road map. I Will soon explain this to my Gf and I am sure that she Will understand.

    Again thank you so much :)
     
  6. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    That's great that you have a partner to help you through this process and grow together.

    I highly encourage you to read YBOP's many resources for dealing with porn addiction as a couple and how to approach the subject with your partner. It is an incredibly serious thing and both of you may feel some extreme emotions.

    There are plenty of articles in the FAQs I linked, and I'm sure you can find more on YBOP. Make sure to emphasize that eve though you made some serious mistakes in the past and possibly hid this affliction from her, you are going to be open and honest with her about it from now on as you start the recovery process. You're doing this for her and to make the relationship better. If she's upset about the lack of sex, assure her you can still give her oral and finger her, and not having sex during the reboot is necessary for healing; once the reboot is over, the sex will be better than ever!
     
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