Can we make it so, nationwide, kids (and addicts) can't access porn so easily?

The end of civilization is nigh.

 

Indeed Lord Lightyear. Indeed. Will you save us?

 

Thanks for the comment Vinum. I am surprised at how many people STILL are unaware of the incredible suffering brought on by governments exercising tyranny over their citizens. Society always fails when it tries to choose the winners and losers. (on this topic that means the children would be the winners and the porn industry would be the losers.)

I humbly ask the "we need the government's help" people to take a look at the history of Prohibition.....The "War On Drugs"....

Funny, during this entire string I don't recall reading anyone talking about the role of the parent in teaching the child bedrock principles of "right and wrong". Thanks to my parents I don't smoke and I eat vegetables. But I watched porn partly because my mother thought it was funny when she caught me with a girlie magazine at age 12--and she didn't even confiscate it!

Do you want to know how to REALLY ruin the porn industry? Put the government in charge of it. Soon you will have actresses getting their roles based on seniority instead of attractiveness. Impotent male actors will get their roles because they were of a disadvantaged class. There will be more regulations and intrusions as to render porn unwatchable. (One real life example of this is the required use of condoms in porn. Most of us hated that and switched over to "amateur" porn.)

As they say, if you put the (USA) government in charge of the desert there'll be a shortage of sand!

 

There is nothing we can do to stop porn. People will eventually get ED and end up here.

Its up to parents to stop their child, to warn them about the danger, but that means we have to "wait" a couple more generations to pass, a lot of parrents dont know about it.

The News about porn side effects will spread anyway, but very slowly. Some porn web sites actually boosted it a little bit by shouting down their websites and replacing it with the message about porn danger, other top websites and P industries sure knows about it, but they will do nothing, as its their only income source.

Also government, recently we had some law changes in the industry where I was working, we fixed it all toghether by creating mass problems,protesting, by spreading the news that we dont like the new law, we became visible to the government who heard us and cancelled the law.

The same here! We are just.....invisible! We can boost the news spreading, but its risky, we can unite with other NoFap communities and start creating visible problems, by attacking porn sites...and somehow to let mass media know why we are doing this and plus, they reach for sensations "PEOPLE WITH ED ATTACK PORN WEB SITES! SENSATION!". This is dirty.....but who said we have to play clean in a dirty game.

 

Like to even have porn in the house, you have to turn it on like the sports channels and tell them what TV?
& pay for porn instead of free making it less accessible?

 

Remove your blinkers from your eyes, and realize that government per se is not the problem. No government, no laws, no regulation, no enforcement, no civilization.

Without government, you'll soon be back in the bush shooting at each other with your guns.

I liken America to a nation of somnambulists, stupefied by a simplistic ideology, walking toward chaos. Wake up!

 

Seems to me a class action lawsuits against Google is in order. How many children are exposed to porn through innocent Google searches. Many countries are making web hosting accountable for their content, especially with respect to "hate" speech. Why not porn to?
If Google exposes our children to porn through their services I say they are partially accountable.

 

It was always a strange word... lets call it what it is... goggle!

 

The War on Drugs is the dumbest goddamn thing ever. Yeah, we're gonna help people by putting users in jail, on tax payers expense, and they'll sit in jail and realize what they did wrong, only to get out and get high again. Great job Uncle Sam. As far as keeping kids from watching porn, I really think the parent should tell them that it's normal, but you should keep away from it because it can cause problems and it's not reality.

 

I think the most important thing to do is spread awareness. Right now porn has a very positive representation in the media. That needs to change. Once people realise what porn does to your mind, the demand will go down. Same as what happened with cigarettes.

 

Great posts Truegamer and Vinum. Thanks.

 

The problem is the Sheeple.

If everyone thinks porn is still great, then it doesn't matter how many restrictions, people will get past them.

Its no different than cigarettes.

 

Even with cigarettes 20 year olds, people my age, they still use them. But I think they probably stop when they become parents. Maybe one day we'll reach that point with porn, it becomes a well-known health hazard.

 

Canada is working on it.
But who follows Canada?
And in America the smoking age just got raised to 21.
Most people who smoke for life start around 14-15.
So it's still accessible.
It's just not as bad as it was.
Also, a huge difference between cigarettes and porn... Do you see James Bond jerking it in the movies? No.
But you see him smoking.
It's cool.
Riiiiiiiggggghhhhttt?
So... There's that.

 

That there is some pretty funny shit!

 

Immature is so right on this. History shows us.....again....and again....that government ends up having to create ever larger solutions to the very problems that THEY created! Do you know why health care is so expensive? It's because a third party paid the bill. Do you know how that happened? In WWII, Roosevelt declared that companies could not increase wages during the war. How did companies compete for the scarce worker? They paid for their health insurance. Once "someone else" was paying your doctor bill, the costs began to skyrocket. Now look at the mess we are in.

So I go back to my earlier post and Immature's post above: If you really want to ruin porn for everyone (and maybe that is a good thing) just put the government in charge of it. Trust me, they'll ruin it in no time.

Immature's reference to Justice Stewart's opinion is incredibly apt here. If we don't vigorously defend free speech--no matter how abhorrent--someday the government will be able to declare ANYTHING "hard core" and eliminate it. They won't be happy until everyone is wearing those "Chairman Mao" hats.....

 

Treating porn as hate speech won't work. The law has been decided, and porn is not included. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States#Supreme_Court_case_law

It will take a new law, new lawsuits, and a Supreme Court decision to establish today's porn as non-constitutionally protected speech. This would require massive work, and I don't think I want to see it happen, as noted below.

If that could be done, and then mechanisms put in place to enforce it - those mechanisms could be harnessed to bad political effect based on the decision of some bureaucrat or judge. Some website dares to differ with the powers that be? Oh, look, it's now porn.

Such mechanisms would be abused.

So I'm on the education side - and the parents are going to have to step up to the plate, because the government indoctrination centers public schools won't do it any time soon. Getting the parents educated will be massive bit of work as well - somebody with real money has to get behind advertising campaigns to do that.

 

You are fighting yesterday's battles. That which is injurious to true freedoms may have morphed into quite a different shape. Those that are locked into yesterday's mindset may end up being completely oblivious to it.

 

Sadly, I deleted that. I wasn't sure of all the legal grounds and everything else I was saying. I probably should have kept some of it. Anyhow, a much modified and less specific form now exists below Davidphd1866's post that I've quoted here.

Suffice it to say that I agree with Davidphd1866. Freedom of speech is too precious.