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Do I need a career and my own place in order to date?

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by superstorm250, Aug 15, 2022.

  1. superstorm250

    superstorm250 Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys, so I posted on another forum website called SoSuave if any of you are familiar with that site asking for advice on how to get started with dating because I’m 29 and have never dated before, in addition to currently being a NEET (no employment education or training) and I still live at home with my parents. I told them that I’m planning on going back to school and I’ll be working a couple days a week too, I thought that would also make me still living at home appear more plausible to any girls that I go out with. But a some of them said that I shouldn’t even consider dating until I’m settled in a career and have my own place and that’s the bare minimum of what I need to get started.

    My question is, are they right or do you guys think that I can start with dating while I’m working and going to school and living at home? I also didn’t mention anything over there about my PMO addiction or the fact that I have PIED. I know that I need a long streak from PMO to even get started with dating so that doesn’t ruin it, countless guys on here have said that PIED has ruined their dating prospects, so I know that’s very important because that has also happened to me and its very embarrassing and awkward when it does happen. How long do you guys think someone needs to go without PMO for that to not be an issue anymore and do you think that I can get started with dating in a casual setting in my current life situation?
     
  2. It's all about you sexual market value

    1. Game
    2. Status
    3. Money
    5. Looks

    For what you told I'll say you have low sexual market value.

    Better get rid of PIED and PMO first, read and learn some game and then date. If you understand game you'll see you don't need to own a place or have a lot of money to date.
     
  3. superstorm250

    superstorm250 Fapstronaut

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    Yeah I know what sexual market value is and my SMV being low is not news to me. I’ve been aware of that for awhile, I even asked on a different site that lets you ask questions to both guys and girls and across the board, they all said my SMV was low. Like you just said, status also plays into your SMV and right now I also have no friends so I’m wondering how much that hurts my SMV even after learning game and having an income again. Also, where’s a good place to learn game? SoSuave has a website portion separate from the forum with a lot of reading materials, would that be a good place?
     
  4. It's hard bro I feel you. Women are quite simple it's so easy. But you say it once you have gained some mastering of it.

    I'll say first get rid of PMO if your mind is addicted to porn it's almost impossible to understand women. Focus your energy on that then start to date.

    Dating can add extra pressure and frustration to your recovery. Do one thing at a time.

    Having PMO, PIED and dating its like being obese, alcoholic parting all night and wanting to run a full marathon it's possible but very hard.

    I've been poor, living with my parents and I've dated lots of girls with plenty of sex. But I've been driven, a great lover, great physique, a promising career as a med student.

    They don't like you for the money they like you for who you are. Sure money can make you have good dates and more fun but if you have other good qualities and a promising future that is attractive even if you don't date long term they like a driven man focused on his mission.

    So it seems you don't have anything going on in your life right now, no nothing so better focus first on yourself and then date. That is my advice. Also sex with a new partner having PIED not a good idea.

    Start by not having a porn addiction and read, watch on the internet about game almost everybody says the same.
     
  5. superstorm250

    superstorm250 Fapstronaut

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    That’s some good and solid advice, thanks.

    I definitely agree that quitting PMO needs to come first, its toxic to your mindset when it comes to dating. After I relapse, I usually have the mindset that quitting is pointless because no girl is gonna want to be a 29 year old guy’s first girlfriend anyway. In the past, it has also made me open to a cuck relationship where if I was to get a gf, I was totally on board with sharing her with other guys and even watching them do it since I’m more used to watching sex than being a participant anyway. Thankfully that’s gone away for the most part, but it still lingers a little bit.

    I also agree that PIED will ruin things with a new partner, she might forgive it once or twice, but she’ll probably leave you if it keeps happening. How long do you think I should give it before I try and have sex? Also, would you say that once I am working a couple days a week and going to school, do you think that’s enough to say that I’m doing things and working towards goals to where I could be at a better place for dating? Because I also feel like my current situation as a NEET is not the right place to be for dating.
     
  6. Everyone is different, nature works slowly but effectively. After flat line and you losing desire to watch porn and spontaneous morning woods it can be a good idea to think about sex. It can take 90 day, 6 months or more or less it depends on how your brain rewires. Be patience.

    The best moment to meet girls and be successful at dating is when you are so focused and happy in your life in whatever you are doing that you don't even care if you have a girl or not and don't care if you have the qualities requiered to date girls. That is the level you need to adquire. Girls love a guy who doesn't need them.

    But understanding the mind of a girl is something very important and hard to grasp they are very difficult beings, emotional, sometimes dark and a bit crazy, with beautiful qualities too. That is a skill one most develop if you don't want to get screwed up by a girl and choosing the wrong girl. That is the real skill in dating :choosing the right girl and learn how to handle women. Being successful and happy with yourself is essential but you need to learn game too. Don't forget it.

    Start with improving yourself and just being happy with being you, not for girls.
     
  7. Reborn16

    Reborn16 Fapstronaut

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    Many women are attracted to your potential to be successful in the future. The amount of guys out there who don't want to improve themselves in any element of life is staggering. If you let's say, want to improve your fitness, job, and housing situation in a few years time - you're literally standing out a lot these days. Of course that's not enough for some women, but they'll be doing you a favour by not leading you on. Rejection can be a blessing in that way.

    I wouldn't worry about the PIED too much. Recovery requires time away from porn of course. It also helps recovery to build intimacy with women. Talking, holding hands, etc. etc. This all rebuilds the connections to a healthy sex life with a real person. The first few times you have sex during recovery, it may not be great, just acknowledge that and don't let it get to you. Foreplay is your friend here.
     

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