How much MO is too much?

I think masturbation itself it's not bad, but what you are trying to achieve with it might be. I mean for a not addicted who masturbates regularly but has no problems with porn addiction or PIED then it's fine if he does, including once a day I guess. The moment this masturbation gets out of control and start interfering his life (sex with a partner, feeling of guilt, exhaustion, anxiety... ) then it is. Very obvious post mine but at least I see it this way.
I was watching porn and broadcasting in cam2cam sites (masturbating to orgasm each time) 2-3 times a day in the week and weekends even 5-6 times spending weekly about 25+ hours, here you can see an example of what too much is.

 

MO is bad. fullstop.

 

For me, both frequency and the tool/aid used for masturbation matters.
A healthy frequency would be thrice a week. Anything more than that would be like wasting time and tiring the penis.
No porn and nudes for aiding in masturbation, because it creates an unhealthy craving. The best way to masturbate is only when you feel the urges strongly, which should be around 3-4 times a week (more or less depending on your age). Also if you're a religious person, then you might have your own reasons as to why masturbation would be a sin for you.

 

NO. Fullstop.

 

We need clearly to distinct:
On NOFAP we fight against an addiction not sexuality itself. This is one of the most beautiful gifts in life we have! Don't let it poison by religious fanatics. A lot of violence, pain, dispair in the world exists, because of supressed sexuality.
IMHO we only need to fight it, when it comes to an addiction - and then also, the final goal can not be the so called "hard mode" this might be a useful tool for some time - but to me at least, is the goal a rich, fullfilled sexuality.

 

Surely a rich and fulfilling sexuality would be one spent with another person and not ourselves though. I am not a religious person, but I have abstained from masturbation for as long as I have abstained from porn now. I believe that this has made it easier to abstain from porn. Surely it is advisable for porn addicts to abstain from all sources of sexual stimulation until they consider themselves recovered. I would consider the definition of a healthy sexuality to be having sex with other people you are attracted to, and not having sex with yourself.

 

then why on earth you make a signature that you not to M all the way to O while watching P if you say NO for MO is bad.. LOL

instead you can just MO anytime you like.

 

that is why MO is bad. It can lead to addiction and it is hard to let it go. I agree with your last sentence.. I will only accept the MO if there is a partner to do that for me instead of doing it alone. MO alone is bad

 

Read carefully - don't mix up things which do not belong together - I say it is bad, when it leads to addiction - like alcohol - most people can enjoy a glass of wine or two - other people need to live abstinent.
And it is a difference, letting you trigger till the point of no return - or you just let it happen once a while and enjoy it, while having no partner.
I personally choose it to sign up for 90 days, because I was searching the kick in the chatrooms and certain tumblrs.
And btw, there is also M without O possible - this I haven't seen discussed here yet.But that is another subject, also not simplified to be answered as good/bad.

 

It really depends on the person. If you feel that your level of sexual desire is normal, neither watching porn nor masturbating get in the way, and you don't have anything like PIED, then you're probably fine. Still, I personally don't think that anyone should masturbate on the daily, so as to avoid a dependency. Also, if you do masturbate then its better to do it more often without porn than with it.

 

Depends on how you masturbate, as weird as that sounds.

Without pornography, fantasies, external stimulation and things like that (jacking off to thin air basically, for the feelings), then I don't see how it's gonna kill you or something. I don't have much of an opinion on this since I'm a proponent of sexual transmutation, but even my teacher (who used to be a doctor and understands the dirty teenage jokes) says that twice a week or so is nothing major.

Though she did say that everyday is a little bad.

If you're using pornography, then no amount is good. Some people can recover well just abstaining from porn but continuing to masturbate (I assume to thin air like I said earlier haha) but it's always best that you set masturbation aside first until you're rebooted. If you have a girlfriend or a wife, opt for actual sex rather than your hand because it's way better (the fact that masturbation is sex simulation).

I dunno, I'm too young to talk about sex like this anyways haha! Good luck man.

 

Never thought about it like that, I reacted like the guy in your GIF when I read that

 

Right!



Sorry, couldn't resist!

 

I think it's too much when you have difficulties reducing the frequency, because that kind of proves you are addicted. Daily masturbation is definitely too much. When it is part of your daily routine you are certainly using it to get your fix.

 

What I'm wondering is, we as men are somewhat programmed to inseminate as much healthy/attractive females as possible and create as much offspring as possible, this explains our sex drive right (excuse me if I'm wrong). Then what would we be the difference with MO if we would go out every day and had as much sex as we could take?

 

Well even if this was true it wouldn't justify masturbating all the time, because I certainly don't think masturbating ever made me have a lot of sex. Using this 'alpha male' terminology, it is making people more the omega type I suppose?

Other than that, I am very skeptical towards this rationalistic evolutionary, drive-based thinking. The world of today is so much different from what it used to be like thousands or millions of years ago. If you are so focused on making children, why do you use contraception? Using the argument you mentioned, having sex without creating offspring would be pointless. Doing it nevertheless would mean that you seperate between your civilized and instinctive behavior, which looks like an excuse to me. Assuming that both parts of you always want the opposite things, you can always go and do something and later justify it using either the former or the latter one as an excuse! As for me, I want to achieve a state of harmony between mind, body and spirit, which doesn't recquire this kind of separation.

However, I have no answer to your question why our sex drive is so high. Partially it could be conditioning by society, but this answer looks too simple to me for a full explanation. Anyway, I have learned that you can seize control over it. Reach out to harmony and being one with yourself.

 

If you ask in context of each day or each month i do not know. But let me assure you that there is an upper limit to how many times you can do fap in total without really damaging yourself,from which recovery is way more harder. I know this because i experienced this and i did not even know porn then . It's called sexual exhaustion. Look it up if you feel like it. I'm still struggling with it. Its the point where the brain fog, tiredness stays with you all the time and doesn't just come when you fap and goes away later. Recovery required long term abstinence, something with which i have struggling honestly. Not to mention now i have even porn to deal with which made things much worse.