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Long term abstinance

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Stug, Aug 16, 2019.

  1. Stug

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    Hi i'm stug and new to this forum

    I have POIS ( post orgasmic illness syndrom ) which is a disease, this means i get an auto immune reaction for about a week straight if i get an orgasm or erection ( erection can be hit or miss but is less worse/shorter in general ). if i would get 2 orgasms in one or 2 weeks i would be totally destroyed physically and mentally, its pure hell. ( feels like you have ran 60 miles and got run over by a car,brainfog/memory problems also ). I believe this disease is caused by certain vaccinations.

    I have this condition my whole life but when i was younger it was less worse. I have a very high sex drive which also bothers me.

    I tried abstinance for years but due to loneliness or aggression because of societal problems and personal problems i sometimes fall back into masturbating. This is not about porn i made another post about that ( watching porn is another thing i sometimes do but got a different trigger). i'm 33 now and last time i had sex/girlfriend or any emotional, sexual relationship was 10 years ago ( no kissing or hand holding / hugging for the last 9 years) , last 6 years completely isolated. I dumped/rejected over 30 woman ( i can only recall that much but it's way more than that) i also failed in all relationships because of this disease.

    Things i have most problems with are technology ( adds and other stuff ) and the stimulation you get from it ( dopamine spiral ) so i removed all technology from my home . Also society is a huge issue for me ... when i'm abstaining for so long i have difficulty looking at woman in general. Especially on the beach or swimming pool i have a hard time. Also woman flirting is hard on me and kinda triggers an hypersexual reaction.

    Lately i have been nofap on and off with or without porn or orgasm etc. Because of the summer my sex drive is higher and i have difficulty after 7 days. it gets to the point where my heart rate goes up, at one moment my heart rate went from 60 to about double just because of abstinance. I get so hypersexual i could not think about anything else. I removed all my technology and all dopamine boosting items/foods because it makes everything worse. I spend last 3 years doing ice therapy and sitting alone in the forest most of the day. Petting horses and feeding them, communicating with them etc or just writing/thinking about things.

    Because of blood sugar and allergy problems i'm on a high protein keto diet which also boost libido.. on vegan diet i maintained abstinance for almost 2 years straight but the diet made me very sick. Lately the longest is 3 months straight but lately it's 2 weeks or 3 weeks at most. My goal is to do it as long as i can without getting too neurotic.

    i'm also very dissappointed with civilization in general ( hypersexualized cultures) and society. Problems with healthcare ( given up 100 % on healthcare) politics/mass immigration, economic issues, social issues ( acceptance of personal situation ). Usually therapists or psychologists don't reply to me or don't want to help me, i have never talked to a psychologist about this ever - simply because they avoid it, don't believe it or don't know how to engage this situation. 3 days ago i sent a email to a psychologist/ sexuologist and again .. no reply...i used to call/visit a neurologist who i could talk to but usually he was too bussy and died some time ago. I have no medical support whatsoever.

    I wonder if anyone here has methods or tips to maintain abstinance as long as possible, any advice or method is welcome.



     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2019
  2. welcome stug, sorry to hear about your problems.

    Since hitting withdrawal I've had kidney stones after relapses so I more or less understand what you are going through. I've thought about these hellish pains after pmo relapses as a sign from the heavens and when I finally linked the two (took me some time to connect the dots), that was enough motivation for me to quit completely. Anything but kidney stones, even if it means going without conscious masturbation for a very long time. I have been clean for almost 2 years and know there's no other option for me but to keep abstaining for however long I may need. There are others on here that are abstaining for longer periods of time so I hope it helps to know you aren't alone on your journey.
    First of all, I think you should look at the illness as a sign from your body and to go from there. You can either respect and care for your body by abstaining or you can disrespect it and give in to the urge. I am by no means a saint or completely against ejaculation but I do believe everything happens for a reason. A big reason for our suffering I believe is that we have used ejaculations for our own pleasure instead of using it for what it's meant to do. You seem to have had it for quite some time but it seems it got worse over time, there has to be a reason for that, and it could be explained by looking at your pmo habit. It will affect all of us in totally different ways.
    When it comes to real help, you could try mindfulness meditation, a technique that will strenghten both your willpower and your immune system. Other than that you will need to remind yourself of the symptoms when the urges kick in. Consequences are the best motivation, especially when you know what can happen, you really want to take advantage of that knowledge and use it against the urges which will certainly become less frequent. Other things that help are exercise and a clean diet, sugary and fatty foods can exacerbate urges since they work on the same pathways in your nervous system. Alcohol is another one to avoid.
    You may also want to look into eastern philosophies, practices and things like Chinese medicin. I never actually passed an entire kidney stone until I tried a special blend of Himalayan herbs. I haven't had another since going monk mode. Women are attracted to you because you are the master of your seed. It's as if they can smell you don't release. Again you really want to use that to your advantage and it's probably in your best interest to from now on only ejaculate during real sex. That's what it is intended for and we really need to get in that mindset. I mean if you're going to suffer at least make it worth it, right? pmo is never worth the suffering. It's a selfish and devastating habit. Anyway hope it helps and take care!
     
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