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Question for those who are in a relationship.

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Jonny1992, Oct 25, 2020.

  1. Jonny1992

    Jonny1992 Fapstronaut

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    Hello everyone. So I for myself am single. My fault. And many suggested to stay single until I got the addiction under control. And I am climbing up step by step. And I notice, when I have a relapse with porn, to cope with my negativ emotions and feelings, to numb them, I feel ashamed afterwards. If my friends ask me how I am feeling I say I feel bad, but I can not talk about it. And I am afraid, that if I am in a relationship it will be really difficult for me to admit to my girl, that I relapsed. I don't want to hurt others.

    So my question for guys: Is it hard for you to tell your girl that you relapsed?
    For girls: How do you react if your partner confesses?

    I will be thankful for answers. Each answer can help me to prepare better and develop further.
     
  2. DefendMyHeart

    DefendMyHeart Fapstronaut

    I can't speak for every woman, but when my husband told me he relapsed, it was as though my world crashed again. I lost all trust in him.. It made me feel worthless, insignificant, and unattractive. I had thoughts of "I'm not good enough because he has to look elsewhere" and "this man never really loved me because if he did, he wouldn't have betrayed me like this". It becomes a downward spirial that lasts for quite some time.

    The only advise I can provide would be, should you get in a relationship and relapse, be 1000 percent honest about it. Answer all her questions truthfully. The "trickle out" confessions cause more damage than just spilling it out all at once. If you commit to change, actually take all steps necessary to do so. My husband would tell me he was committed to change, but would continue to lie. Our marriage as a result is barely hanging on a thread.
     
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  3. I am sorry sister
    I should not ask this Question but pls help me
    How did you felt when you came to know that your husband is porn addict and watching other girls to masturbate.
    Should i tell my Gf that i am addicted or without telling her should i manage by myself to overcome this Crap
    Sorry for Bad English Sister
    Love from India
    I will pray for you and your husband.
    Things will get better Soon
     
  4. DefendMyHeart

    DefendMyHeart Fapstronaut

    I think honesty is the best policy when it comes to being in a relationship. Mainly because you will be hiding this aspect of yourself from her. She will pick up on it at some point, and she will find out whether you tell her or not. It would be best to let her know up front that you're struggling.

    When my husband first told me, I felt devastated. It was as though he had been cheating on me with a bunch of different women through our entire marriage. It still feels that way. I wanted to leave him. I didn't want to deal with it. It was my love for him that kept me with him and trying to help him overcome the addiction. When he does something now, I feel it in my chest. The longer he lies about it, the worst the chest pain becomes.
     
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  5. Thank you for this valuable guidance Sister.
    I will do as you said.
    I am orphan i don't want to lose her because she is the only one who loves me.
    Thank you Sister.
    I will not relapse Sister I promise you.
    When i will complete 90 days i will tell you as a younger Brother
     
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  6. Jonny1992

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    Ok thank you. That helped a lot. From my side as a man I am ashamed a lot. And I know if I relapse is not because I want a girl who looks better then I have or something like that, it is a drug for myself to numb the pain. What I learned is, to head on the pain and try to figure it out. What causes the pain. I will develop to someone who takes care of his girl and gives her the feeling to be the only one. To be 1000% honest is something I did not achieved yet, but I will. And I think it is important that my partner is also 1000% honest.

    Thank you for describing your pain and you thoughts, it helps me to understand more, what kind of feeling I can give my girl. Honestly I am also scared not to be good enough for my girl. That is why I am doing sports right now, to look better to have more muscle and stamina.
     
  7. Jonny1992

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    Wow, it is really poison in marriage or relationship. :( I am kinda scared now if I will get rid of this shit. I just want to love myself and my wife. I want to change a lot. Thank you also for that answer. That helped.
     
  8. DefendMyHeart

    DefendMyHeart Fapstronaut

    I think it is also important to work on the past and address issues and trauma the led to the addiction because that will help with the healing process as well. Working on your heart and mind is as important as working on your body. To feel enough is a process that occurs from within, and it also prevents you from being taken advantage of by someone who may not have the best of intentions in the relationship. It will prevent the "i deserve to be treated this way because of this.." mindset. I wish you the best in your healing
     
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  9. MountainInMyWay

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    Trigger maybe? About my intense feelings on D-Day.

    @DefendMyHeart This is spot on: “It was as though he had been cheating on me with a bunch of different women through our entire marriage. It still feels that way.“

    As for how I reacted/felt, I’ve been writing in a journal that my therapist recommended. In it, it asked me to list all the feelings I experienced on that night when after 11ish years of white knuckling, then fishing, my husband revealed his massive relapse. This is what I wrote.

    LIAR. Destroyed. Gutted. Lost. Betrayed. WTF. Chaos in my head. Broken Hearted. Isolated. Vulnerable. Hate. Insecure. Ugly. Not Enough. Doubt. Violated. Torn. Furious. Pulverized. Dumb. Screaming inside. Anxious. Worried. Horror. Embarrassed. Anger. Restless. Aching. Fear. Shock. Pain. Scarred. Curious, then regret. Broken Dreams. Why did God allow this? Insomnia. Crying. Sick. Nauseous. Depressed. Haze.

    So many all at once and then ping ponging about them at any given time thereafter. But even through all these feelings, the best thing he did was reveal everything to me instead of me discovering it. It gave me the 1st glimmer of hope that discovering would not. I do not think I’d be where I am today if I found out on my own (which breaks my heart even more for all these sweet people who do end up discovering it first). Some of these feelings are still a cloud over me, some are slowly fading. But years into our marriage there was something subliminally sucking the soul out of it slowly that I couldn’t put my finger on. Once he admitted his relapse to me, and got the *proper* help this time, it has allowed him to be the most vulnerable, open, person that he’s ever been. I’ve never, ever seen this side of him before - and I’ve known him for almost 20 years.

    Through the devastation, I do see many things happening with us that I only wished could have been happening during our 10 year marriage. He is horrified with what he’s done and has chosen that he finally wants to change for himself. This is what we were missing before. He changed for me while dating/engaged so we could get married. Didn’t work. He changed for him this time, joined a group, is seeing a specific safe therapist, journals, put software on everything, deleted all social media, has accountability partners, etc... He says he is finally feeling freed.

    We still have really bad days and definitely a long way to go. I get in my head a lot recalling things... specifically about certain people he deliberately looked up over and over. And fear/trust for the future of course. Those two things continue to be the biggest hole I’m trying to climb out of. But we are baby-stepping forward to real healing at least. I didn’t think that was at all possible on D-Day, and/or the weeks after.
     
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  10. MountainInMyWay

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    Pain/Job Stress/Worthlessness.. This is exactly what brought on my husband’s fishing and then the PMO daily relapse.

    I’m so sorry you are feeling pain. I hope you can find the right/safe person to help you unpack it.
     
  11. Jonny1992

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    Well in my case, many things are connected to the porn addiction: No Stressmanagement, no self love, running away from problems. So I am solving many things step by step. And I notice that I start to disgust porn. It is disgusting and I don't feel attracted to the "hot chicks" or perfect body. Sure I am influenced by it and I will take some time to heal. But solving the problems step by step will lead to free myself from the strings that or connecting me to porn.

    Thank you for your words.
     
  12. Jonny1992

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    Thank you for your words. I take the words here seriously and I really try to avoid a relationship. To finish of PMO before starting a relationship. I am changing.
     
  13. Jonny1992

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    What is a D-Day?

    Woooow, this is really a lot of negative emotions. That puts me under fear not to do the same to my future girl. But the main motivation should be love and not fear. That is what I want to reach. Itry d´to get rid of PMO before engaging. And I will reveal my future gf, with what I had or still struggle. I don't know how to do it thou!?

    It is kinda shocking to me how porn closes a person from the inside. After he was honest this was the most open version of him that you have ever seen? That is sick.

    When he himself is horrified and regrets it, I can forgive.

    I need to think about it, how I don't only do nofap for my future spouse and my actual friends. But for myself ?... this is kinda ... new ...
     
  14. MountainInMyWay

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    Lol ok maybe I shouldn’t have listed them all, but yes, betrayal can come with a lot of negative emotions - especially when you’ve finally started trusting again and then you’re hit upside out of the blue. It’s truly heartbreaking and even physically painful.

    D-day is the day of the reveal or discovery.

    And doing this for your future spouse sounds noble... but from everything I’ve seen, continued success comes from doing this for yourself and taking the hard - but right- steps to get there (SA Therapist, SA/PA classes, Accountability Software, etc).
     
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  15. DefendMyHeart

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    I second what @MountainInMyWay says. You've got to do this because it is for you first and foremost. You're more likely to heal and overcome the addiction that way
     
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  16. ruso

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    Hey @Jonny1992,

    First I’ll share a tip that may help you to talk about it with your friends, then I’ll share how nofap is like with my relationship.

    Try to see if there’s other people you know who have bad or destructive habits they are trying to stop or trying to start positive habits. The negative ones could be overeating, procrastinating heavily, drinking too much, watching way too much Tv etc. etc. That’s the common ground, for you to share up to what you are comfortable with. It’s not the same, but feelings of regret when failing to commit to stopping/starting something, the resolve/excitement to start again, the difficulty in persevering share similar psychology with what you are doing.

    For example, I have a friend who was an alcoholic (now possible chronic weed smoker) who went through his own journey with alcohol and that’s who sometimes I share stuff related to NoFap.

    —-

    Regarding my relationship:

    My girlfriend, appreciates that I made not watching porn a goal, and encourages me like she does with my goal of working out/exercising. She doesn’t really care though if I relapse or not. And during the beginning when I think I was talking too much about it, she would roll her eyes and would tell me just watch porn, and that this would just be another thing I started and stopped and in 2 months I would forget about it.

    That helped to understand that it’s all on me, and this is my journey only. The commitment is to myself, and no one else. In the beginning I wanted her to care more, but seeing how it’s just me, made me more accountable. Once progress started, and I understood that I couldn’t talk about it to her all day - that’s when she encourage me more when I would reach a milestone (Like 15 days, 30 days and so on) and she understood that I was taking this seriously. It also helped to balance the Nofap talk with the exercise/working out talk or other goals.
     
  17. Jonny1992

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    Yeah I talk with my accountbility Partner and ask him, what are his own reasons to quit PMO. Not for others but for himself. I will take a Piece of Paper and write my reasons down again. I already did it once, but I kinda forgot.

    There is still one thing I want to ask you, cause it did not let me sleep. You wrote: Once he admitted his relapse to me, and got the *proper* help this time, it has allowed him to be the most vulnerable, open, person that he’s ever been. I’ve never, ever seen this side of him before - and I’ve known him for almost 20 years.

    This is something my ex bothered. I could not be open. Because I was ashamend. Also I was afraid to lose her, so I did. That is why I could not be open.

    Why did that made you feel like he was open like never before? And this kind of openess would you have wanted it since you are married with him?

    I never was so long in a relationship, and I really want to learn and understand. This forum already helped me a lot. I have kinda the feeling that you answer will be one final step, until it makes click in my head.
     
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  18. Jonny1992

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    I thought about it and it is twisted. My wish is to be free from porn to nor hurt my beloved ones. It is my wish, as well as the wish to hurt not others.
    I once wrote my reasons down and I will find them and read them again.

    The pain that I got through my mistakes with my ex still hurts a lot. And I can cry if I think about it. I have not an evil heart or lust for other woman, it was my only way to cope until I met an therapist. It is just, I want a best friend and I don't like to lose best friends.

    DO you know what also bothers me? I always have the vision of a woman, with my preferences, that were form due to porn. Also it changed the way I view myself, I don't like my body. It will take some time to heal from that so that my mind does not push a woman outside, just because she oes not have the "perfect" body, which is rarely anyways. I hate that shallow part of me. In the future I will cope with that.
     
  19. Jonny1992

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    The thing with the work out was a good example. I will think about your comment some time again. I had some thought I did not understood. I need some time. Then I will write.

    And respect how understandable your gf is. gg buddy.
     
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