Questions about curing PIED

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by realficker, Oct 6, 2020.

  1. realficker

    realficker New Fapstronaut

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    Hello,
    I have probably PIED. I am not sure, but when I watch porn I can get a boner easily. I can also get a boner when I have no sex drive (it took than a bit longer) and without ci.al.is. Without watching porn or reading sex stories it is very difficuilt and mostly it works only with 2,5mg ci.al.is daily or I have a good day and a nice fantasie (very rare).

    I have quit with porn videos since the end of may. After that I realised that I also often use pics and erotic texts to make me horny. So at the end of june I quitted also with that stuff.
    At the end of August I my libido rised and the sex drive got better. The ED was still there. But a few weeks later both is again terrible.

    I am now really disappointed and I also realised that I have often sex fantasies and imaginations and also I fapped sometimes because of that.

    All in all I had probably 1x per week sex during all that time and I also fapped but without watching porn or reading sex stories.

    My questions:
    -Can I have sex during the rebooting time?
    -Can I fap during the rebooting time?
    -Can I have sex fantasies or will they work the same as porns?
    -->because I have read that our brain can't differentiate between fantasies/ imagination and the real world/ porn watching...

    -What else should I consider?
    -->becauce I have never really dealt with "nofap", not using porn" and all this stuff. In may I watched one youtube video and then I started with not using porn and nofap. Later I thought, that nofap makes no sense and only porns are bad.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Hi. This usually happens to many. It is like a roller coaster. In my case, I was very sexually aroused from day 70 to day 90. After day 90, I started to calm down little by little until I felt flat again. It is very curious. Just thinking about a kiss with a woman could make me hard in those days. That was in the month of September. After the 90th day (at the beginning of October) I was calm again. This month I have been very calm (flat line). We do not know with certainty why. Even known rebooters who have recovered like Gabe confess that this happened to them also during their recovery.

    Multiple flat lines may appear during recovery.
     

  3. My point of view: NO

    The restart should be a time to let the body (brain / mind) rest from orgasms and all sexual stimulation.

    In my experience, and according to many posts that I have read over many years, men who often masturbate during reboot or who have sex during reboot do not see real improvements take much longer than those who reboot on hard mode.

    Now: this depends on how addicted you have been to pornography accompanied by masturbation, something that you can only judge yourself.
     


  4. Sexual fantasy has long been touted as a way to meet sexual needs or fill the gap between mates’ out of sync libidos. This assumes sexual desire is like hunger: you simply eat (or orgasm) until you’ve had enough. Obviously, if you have a bigger or more varied appetite than your mate, you’ll add snacks, or masturbate, as the case may be.

    Many people view orgasms as they do dietary staples. If fast food is a valuable convenience because it gets you fed sooner, your favorite fantasy is valuable because it gets you off faster, or with a bigger blast of neurochemicals.

    Could there be more to the story? Just as some kinds of food trigger cravings and binging, perhaps some kinds of sexual fantasy do, too (i.e., whatever gets you really aroused). For example, make sugary foods a habit, and you are likely to yearn for them even when you have no desire for healthy food, that is, even when your body does not need to eat. You aren’t looking for nutrients, but rather for a brief rush of the brain chemical dopamine, which soon drops off again—leaving you anxious for more.


    Similarly, the more you fantasize about that three-way or kinky partner, the more intrusive and stronger those thoughts seem to become. You wire nerve cells together to construct a pathway connecting your internal movie with sexual arousal. As a result, fantasizing can lead to playing something over in your mind like a damaged CD. As you jack up your dopamine with each promise of pleasure, cravings for orgasm may rise far above previous baseline libido. Your increasing frustration can make it that much harder to find satisfaction. At the same time, your brain may become desensitized to the real deal. Said one woman.

    As you stop stimulating those familiar brain pathways, the connections at the synapses of the related nerve cells actually weaken, and the fantasy loosens its death grip. Take care not to wrestle the fantasy, call it names, or label it (or yourself!) “sick” or “sinful.” Don’t try to analyze whether you’re making progress. Such tactics increase anxiety. (If you establish a link between anxiety and arousal, you could find yourself wanting to orgasm whenever you’re stressed.)

    You’ll know your new approach is working when your sexual arousal arises naturally without fantasy. That’s an excellent sign; your brain is rewiring itself. You are also likely to discover two things: (1) your need for orgasm is far less than you imagined while you were using fantasy to climax, and (2) reality is a lot more fulfilling as the sensitivity of your brain increases.
     
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  5. Hey brother
    I am doing pmo since i was 14 now i am 22
    I fapped excessive like 2/3 sometimes 4/5 times per day in these 7 years
    would you like to give any advice to me pls bro
    I am orphan so when somebody abused me or beated me i was going and fapping when i was teenager
    That's why i fapped so much
    to avoid pain in my heart
    pls motivate me brother
    Sorry for bad English, English is not my mothertongue
     

  6. Hello:

    There is something in common with me:

    I, too, may have started using pornography to deal with negative emotions: loneliness, frustration of not being able to have the woman I wanted, insecurity towards relationships ...

    Once we stop using, we must learn to live with the negative emotions we feel. ALL HUMAN BEINGS HAVE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS and we have to learn to live with them.

    Quitting porn is not going to make my life rosy, but I am going to make it a lot better than it is today.
     
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  7. I started using it when I was 24 years old. I am currently 38 years old. I never masturbated when I was a teenager.
     
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  8. Thanks Brother this motivates me to do Nofap
    I feel sorry for you brother
    Stay Positive
    Love from India
     
  9. I masturbated alot brother that's why i feel very guilty
     

  10. Okay. Rest well. I haven't done it for 116 days. In moments of impulse and in moments when I feel flat, I don't. Three and a half months have passed. The last time I did it was on June 29 this year. Since that day I have not done it again.

    I am 38 years old and perhaps my mind asks me at this moment in life for company, to touch, kiss, hug someone. And masturbation and pornography no longer offer me that.

    Porn and masturbation only offer an orgasm. Nothing else. Personally, that's why I'm no longer interested in doing it. I don't want an orgasm, I want company.
     
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  11. If you really acknowledge the fact that you are alone, and that what you used to believe was people is just your phone, there nothing to arouse you from porn. If you zoom out of the screen, you can clearly see yourself, alone, in a room. Say to yourself: "I'd like to have some fun with somebody, I'd like to be aroused or even have sex. Now though, I'm alone and that's impossible until I reach out to somebody." and trust me, you are just gonna close the tabs out of pure disappointment of porn. Even if you get turned on, there is the second part of the addiction to stop. Say "I'd really like to have sex now, but I can't because I'm alone. When I'm masturbating and even after I'm done, during all that I'm alone." and see yourself getting turned off.
    I suggest doing this everyday for sometime. Open a porn tab intentionally, just to realize that it is not real and get the experience into your head, that you can be exposed to porn and not get aroused. I choose to open a porn tab of all things, because I believe in our world it's impossible to not get stimulated. You have to be able to reject watching porn as you are exposed to a porn site. After all, that's how you stop the addiction, not by betting on luck that you are never gonna get exposed to porn, but by being exposed to it and rejecting it face on.
    Don't worry that you might be supporting the porn site you will visit by providing traffic. You are really saving yourself by a lifetime's worth of visits. Do this drill daily until you feel like there is no point in opening a site, if the only thing that's going to happen is disappointment and closing the tab.

    To sum it up, we humans want interaction with other humans, generally with the world. We want to love the world, so we can be happy however it might be. Watching porn, getting turned on by it and ending up masturbating to it, all happens because we lie to ourselves. In our desire to connect, we end up by ourselves. Don't mask such egocentric activities, as love and connection, when it's exactly the opposite, loneliness and isolation. Believe in this simple and well known truth, explain it to yourself, do research, do whatever it takes to understand that truth, for our porn addiction lies in lie.
     
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  12. I will Pray for you Brother
    You will surely get someone to love
    and she will also love you
    God has greater plans for us.
    I am christian i will definitely pray for you
     
  13. This is Mind-blowing.
    Wow brother each and every word of your comment is pure Gold.
    Whenever i will get urges i will read your comment
    Saved it to my Notes
    Thank you so much brother for this valuable Guidance
    Love you so much
     
  14. TantraMan

    TantraMan Fapstronaut

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    It seems that you may suffer from something else, not only PIED. NoFap is a good tool, but is not a solution, for that you should take a look at what is causing you to have these problems and then work on the roots.
    For how long have you been experiencing these issues?