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Talking about others sexually with partner

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Plucki, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. Plucki

    Plucki Fapstronaut

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    In my past two relationships, my partners were a) bi, b) very into porn, and watching it with me, c) going to strip clubs together, and d) into talking about people we knew, sexually, browsing social media together and getting off together.

    Now that I'm on NoFap and single, I'm trying not to do any of those things on my own, of course. But it's incredibly challenging because it feels like a big part of who I am. And these are qualities I desperately want in a future partner.

    There is a girl who really likes me, that I also like, whom I dated before quarantine. We've talked about getting back together. And she's amazingly open and kinky, sexually.

    Problem is? She's 100% straight. Does not like girls, and has zero interest in even knowing that I may be attracted to someone we know. She's "fine" with me admitting an attraction, but would prefer to not hear, and definitely not any further details. And the fact that I want to share all these thoughts about sexualizing others make her feel not enough. They make her feel like shit.

    Should this really be a problem for me? Especially if I'm going to start this new life without porn?

    I'm so used to sharing everything sexually with a partner. Fantasies about inviting others into threesomes etc. So while I also need to change the chemistry in my brain, I'm worried that I'll have this huge part of my sexuality that's repressed and hidden. She's also not super feminine, and I feel guilty for wanting to make her more so (suggesting she wears cuter clothes we see, for example). I'm used to not having a single woman meet all my needs because I could literally explore all the women with previous partners together.
     
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  2. ZiguShar

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    hey man, hows this new girl amazingly open and kinky if she feels insecure and threatened by any of the things you obviously enjoyed with the previous lady? sounds like the other was more secure with her more outgoing and curious sexuality than this one will ever be... its a matter of personality and psychology i think which i am not sure can be changed ... sure with more intimacy and time and patience maybe she would grow to like some of these other things but theres a good chance from ur words that wont be the case... if so, she might not be somone for you since you will feel like theres things you enjoy talking about and doing that you simply cant with her... and thats one of the reasons so many men turn to sex workers and flings and "friends" aside form the wife or girlfriend, because they cant relate with her in some way ...

    if you truly enjoy an outgoing, curious, bisexual, with a high libido and a curious adventurous mind , that goes beyond the limits of traditional monogamy, girlfriend, then perhaps this lady is not a good match.

    may i ask why the previous relationship ended? was it on good terms? the sex stuff you did was not the root cause of it ?
     
  3. Plucki

    Plucki Fapstronaut

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    As far as the other relationships ending, one of the reasons was my constant interest in seeing other people. Which I feel is deeply tied to my masturbation/sex/porn addiction. Still learning.

    I appreciate the response, but I also think there's a misunderstanding here. If a girl sets boundaries and does not want to participate in your particular kink, that doesn't meant they're not open and kinky in general. It just means they have limits and preferences to be respected. Considering this person is not attracted to women, it makes even more sense.

    I also feel it's troubling and shaming to suggest that if a woman has limits or boundaries, that it's the reason men go to sex workers and other resources. Remember that I'm talking about exes I also used to watch porn with all the time. And we're on NoFap. :)

    So what I'm struggling with, in part, is that this girl wants a monogamous relationship, and I feel like the part of me scared of committing is the "porny" parts of my brain -- that never-ending well of sexual attention and lusting over others, whether it's porn and sexualizing shared friends. It's hard for me to know what the other side of that would look like after this addiction is over.

    Anyone else have experiences like this?
     
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  4. ZiguShar

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    well, if you say it was 1 of the causes for disagreements between you and them , so be it, but let me remind you that there people , couples, who are happily married and who happily and confidently engage in sex , in one way or another, perhaps not the same way that they do when they are alone, whatever, with other people, men and women or couples. And they do not think they are "addicted" So, indeed if that was the cause, you will have to figure out if those experiences you lived and seemed to enjoy so much with previus girlfriends, if they bring you pleasure and satisfaction and an erotic fulfillement because they are simply stuff you do enjoy doing and sharing with someone in an intimate manner , or ...if they come to you because you have an obsession with visual porn .
    Only after you stay way from porn for a while , a good while, can you say if they are innate to you , a spart of your interests or just something that went too far because of porn ... and fyi , non monogamic desires and erotic desires and explorations by yourself or with someone else, is part of the human mind and character. has always been . ok? going to a strip club with your girl or wife, or visiting a nudist beach or desiring a sexual partner of a different sex or of the same sex for yourself or for your wife has nothing to do with porno or some videos ... its because you look forward to new experiences, or because you always wanted to know what it could be like, youre curious, or because you 2 talked about it and it seemed hot and both of you like it ...thats all natural man! thats common to soooo many people.
    Would you say those previous women ultimately regretted have sex with you and another girl? was the relationship perhaps not on such a solid ground to begin with? was there lack of communication? did they after separating, also come to the conclusion that it was stemmed from too much porn ?

    fine i misunderstood indeed, she has a clear cut line when it comes to your kinks while also being kinky in other ways. its up to you to figure out , perhaps it will take you years of self doubt and discovery, to figure it out, but you figure out if indeed you could adopt her kinks and be happy that way... or not. if the need or desire for them would ultimately surface again.

    Its not about shaming anyone, its real life, its what i meant. Whenever one member of the couple is unhappy or unfulfilled in some way , perhaps for long times, or because despite existing a family of even love and friendship, people look outside of that relationship to get what they desire. sometimes they dont even look actively for it, but when it meets them they welcome it, even if its resisted at first. Who do you think has been and is still the highest percentage of people who visit escorts? its married men. for all sorts of reasons.

    if indeed you have an addiction to it which has filled your sexual impulses and mind with desires that are not compatible with her view of monogamy for your relationship, then you can only help that relationship by stopping porn for half a year 1 year and see how it grows from that and if that part of your mind disappears....

    ps : she wants a monogamous relationship and no girls right? what about another male , did you talk about it ? since has not bi in any way, one assumes she would welcome a kinky menage a trois , or exploration with another male. dont know if thats your cup of tea but if it were more to her liking due to it being with someone of the opposite sex to which she is attracted, then would be kinky and satisfy some of your erotic desires as well?

    best of luck.
     
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