This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but what is it with the desperate search for sex on these forums? All of us on here are recovering from, or trying to break, a sex centred addiction; so why are there so many people asking how they can find sex asap? Sex will not help your recovery; and sex should not be a goal in and of itself. I understand that not everyone on here has a religious reason for abstaining from cheap sex, but honestly, I would have thought it was obviously not a great idea for anyone, let alone someone with sexual addiction. How is sex for the sake of sex any different from P and M? Yes it might not affect your physical sexual capabilities like P and M, but mentally it's basically the same thing. Because if it's sex for the sake of sex, the woman you're with might as well be a picture on a screen. The true separation between P+M and real sex is not the physical presence of a woman's body, but rather the relations and connections between you and the woman. Have you noticed how those saying "sex is nothing special" and "it's not worth saving your virginity" always seem to be the people who went after sex for the sake of sex and haven't experienced it within a loving, lasting, relationship? Sex should be the result of a successful relationship; the outward working of your love for that person. And when I say "love" I'm not talking about physical attraction or even "feelings"; both of those are important in a romantic relationship, but love is when you put their needs and desires ahead of your own, when you treat them how you would like to be treated, when you seek to create and maintain a truly intimate closeness with them built through total honesty, total sharing, total caring, etc. When you can achieve that level intimacy without sex (and believe me, you can if you try) then sex will be the natural outward sign of your intimacy, not the supposed source of it, and will therefore necessarily have greater meaning and closeness than sex does when it is made the goal. Remember: sex is for a relationship, not a relationship for sex.