These are top 3 most stupid things i read in site, they are not very rare and they are preety common 1. Nofap will become easy over time. If you can make 30 days, you can make 1000000000 days! 2. Porn equals cheating. It is worse than cheating 3. Edging is already a relapse. It is worse than fully PMO What are top 3 most stupid things you read?
I’ve seen many people who are trying to live an extremely disciplined life, in which they every day want to keep track of many things. I’ve seen a person forcing himself to get up at 4am, taking cold showers, meditate daily, live by a strict schedule. They think it will cure their depression but they really need to chill out and talk to people and build trust instead. It’s not necessarily ‘stupid’, but it’s the wrong approach for their problems as far as I can tell (I don’t know them personally but just judging by their written stories) In the end, you want to stop fapping / watching P and enjoy your life and work for goals. Does that mean making your own life extremely uncomfortable? Just for the sake of making it uncomfortable? There should be a balance in my opinion.
Also how you experience life is determined by how you interact with others and how others interact with you. I feel like this is a subject not often discussed on this forum because the easiest way out is to ‘just don’t fap’ but that by itself won’t change all that much. Build friendships and live how you want to live, behave how you want to behave, etc. Don’t stay in the comfort zone of ‘just not fapping’, but live life the way YOU WANT to live it. Just my opinion.
People tend to generalise things from their personal experience. That person is a good man because he was kind to me. This person is evil because she lied to me. It is the same about our experiences with nofap. For many posts on this site (just like other places), we should take others' advice with a grain of salt.
I`ve seen all kinds of people saying that they are relapsing after 100+ days, 200+ days, 400+ and even 800+ days, everyone can relapse at any time becouse nofap is not easy, and all that days they did not relapse they was struggling at some point. Nofap never becomes easy, it`s a myth. It`s same like quitting junk food addiction and going 21 days fast and after that 21 days fast saying to a person that they are fast food addict becouse they have a need to eat something
I understand that for many people maybe that's the case. But I'm afraid you don't mean many people, you mean every people. In your opinion, no one can really quit the addiction?
Well I don't consider anything stupid here, people that come here come for advice and support and many are living strong problems. I don't think it is cool to criticize or judge people with problems.
I say this all the time because I believe it's true. After 30 days the urges are severely weakened and most people will have recovered significantly. In fact, on my longest streak it seemed like the first week was harder than all the other days combined. This depends on your personal views towards cheating. I personally don't think cheating is that bad to begin with. But I'm not sure I would consider watching porn as cheating. Again, this is personal, and depends on your goals. To me, edging is a reset/relapse. And whether it's worse than PMO depends on how much you do it. I would rather PMO in five minutes than edge for two hours.
We are probabbly looking at word `nofap` differently, when i say nofap i mean hard mode, abstaining from all sexual activity, if having sex then not PMing is very easy, i don`t mean on that. Or at least having sex but without O is somehow easyer. But saying to a healthy, adult, sexual person to not even touch themselves for months is cruel. That is my view. I am not robot
My top 3 streaks are: 1. 67 days 2. 49 days 3. 45 days And i have a plenty of streaks 30+ days, i was believing for 2 years that nofap will become easy as a paper over time, and i feel deceived. First 20-30 days are even easyest while sexual energy is still building up, second month is much harder than first month becouse i am full of sexual energy. That is my experience. I could do nofap forever too if having sex without O or Ming without O, but what a meant is, no PMO no sex no anyting If i did what is completely ok for this community MOing and having sex with O then nofap is very easy yes. But in OP when i said nofap i meant abstaining from all sexual activity
It gets easier if you keep trying, overtime urges are weaker and weaker and they become easier to resist simple as that
Oh yeah. Thanks for the explanation. Now your opinion makes a lot of sense. I have nothing against having sex in a relationship so I tend to separate it from nofap. But you're right. O in PMO includes any sexual activity and not just by masturbation. Nonetheless, I don't consider normal sexual activities a "relapse". Relapse meant to be a bad thing. In fact many people do nofap to get free from P / M addiction and be able to be in a good relationship. It's good to don't do any sexual activity for a long time (like 3 months or one year). But not forever (unless they want it themselves).
Human brain is naturally craving 4 things: food, water, sleep and sex. Porn addiction increases sexual urges. But it is not main cause of sexual urges. `the longer we are on nofap and how porn addiction is dissapearing over time sexual urges are dissapearing` i wish that beautiful fantasy i had for 2 years is true. It is all just 1 deception. And i don`t want other guys to be deceived. Sexual energy is building up and building up and it has to go somewhere. There is always 1 rare happy case, but majority of guys (big majority) will have to struggle This guy explained it perfectly
I am not able to do nofap anymore anyway becouse i am in a relationship, i will just do retention (sex without O)
It does become `easyer` but it does not become `easy` , especially not `super easy` as i was dreaming about for 2 years and counting the days and living in false hopes, just like i see you and so many guys here living in false hopes. No PMO will always take effort and the reason is simple, we are programmed through thousands of years to procreate
edging is worse than full PMO, it's a fact not "stupid" 1) my doctor said it is dangerous to masturbate without ejaculation, so imagine doing that for hours (edging), i'll take my doctor's words over yours 2) finishing a quick masturbation session while watching porn is not as bad as hour long dopamine edging sessions. Its also what keeps many people in this addiction, you watched for hours but still cant find yourself to be completely satifisfied, you want more more more...
