It's probably more than one thing. Maybe it's a combination of reproduction, culture, and environment. For around 10 years I went to a black church and during that time I became extremely attracted to black women but once I left I went back to finding white women attractive. So for me, it was a change in my environment that changed what I thought was attractive. But I'm talking about myself personally not why certain women are generally thought of as being attractive. I think what is considered to be a hot chick isn't necessarily what individuals find attractive. We live in interesting times though because you have this push for plus-size models to be featured in advertisements and a great number of normal women doing OnlyFans. Maybe in 20 years time being plus-sized and ordinary will be considered hot?
I've heard tons and tons of bookworm ladies swooning over this idea as a meet cute. It's not too much at all imo. It's not really much different than asking someone on a date. You're basically setting up a future date, where you chat about the book you read. Tbh, I think many men could benefit from making more of an effort, not less. I hear a lot of modern women in the dating world being disappointed by the lack of effort. Setting up a date like this would show you actually care enough to make an effort to get to know the person and what they're interested in, instead of just using some kind of standard pick up line or asking to go for coffee or a drink or some other cliche. Most women like to be courted.
Yea I’ve watched videos with black actresses before and noticed a strong attraction to black women after that. Also, in elementary school I remember I would get a crush on whichever girl I sat next to in my classes. So I see some similarities with the environment thing. However, I do not know if all the advertising in the world would get me to like plus sized models. Normal looking girls who are thin I’ve always liked though. Well, yes this will be a huge test maybe we will see the results in our lifetimes if the push for plus sized women becomes seen as mainstream attractive. I do think the environment thing you mentioned has something to do with attractiveness though, at least in regards to race and also stronger attraction to average looking women
I think it's natural to be somewhat put off by unhealthiness. Not to say that everyone who is overweight is unhealthy, but despite what the media likes to suggest, it is pretty medically proven that everyone who is morbidly obese is certainly unhealthy. In the past, when overweight people were considered more attractive, it was actually somewhat because it was a sign of health and wealth. The unhealthy people were probably more often the ones who were too thin, because they didn't have enough food. But nowadays, we have gone far beyond enough food into a great excess of food, which is a problem. Certainly there are some people out there who are attracted to obese people, as well as others who may not be physically attracted to them but would love them anyway because other things are more important than physical attraction. But I think for the majority of people, obesity is never going to be, and should never be, seen as beautiful. Any more than anorexia should be seen as beautiful.
Gonna copy this somewhere else for future reference, lol. Those are some pretty great ideas, never would've thought of that. And it works since I've begun reading this year. That's also a very good way to figure out what kind of person she is. What she likes, dislikes about the story, are there ways she would've written it instead (assuming she dabbles in writing), why does she like or dislike a character, etc, and it would give said girl the same opportunity for the guy she's discussing the book with. I'm gonna remember this. EDIT: Also I get the Pride and Prejudice reference, lol.
Totally! As a book nerd (well, a story nerd in general... I love movies and TV shows too) I think talking about stories is a really great way to get to know people. Hehe I wondered if anyone would
You know what beauty of a woman is ? ones and zeros on screen. Do you know why it's so fucking hard for a woman to hear from her husband that he is addict to porn ? because right there and than, the woman realize that her greatest asset - her beauty, it's nothing, it can be replaced by ones and zeros on screen. it's like working all your life as a truck driver and than see a new self driving truck replace you on the road. and it leaves you unemployed and without purpose. however man are the complete opposite, man are not easily replaceable, woman need the attention and care of man, their protection and their hard work. woman can stare all day at a picture of food it will not make her belly full. while a man can stare at the picture of a woman and it will make him satisfied, at least for a while. with VR and Meta the woman will be even more replaceable. and sure, only woman can have babies. but you didn't envy woman because they can make babies and you don't. you envied them because they are beautiful. well, there is nothing to be envied about. To get a naked woman in front of you , you had to work hard, compete, and maybe in 10 years you will get her. 10 years of average work is worth 500K dollars if you live in USA. now to see a naked woman you just open your phone screen, how much does it cost to open a screen in terms of electricity ? 0.001 $ ?
Holy crap, dude. This is incredibly sexist. Women are not objects that are "easily replaceable" by pixels on a screen. I have far more to offer my husband than being a pretty image for him to look at. Women, like men, are not easily replaceable by a screen, because women have much more to offer you than just their appearance. You need to graduate from the stone ages and join the rest of us in 2022.
Plenty of things. I want to experience having a son. It's human to want to reproduce. We are not at the stage where babies can be born in test tubes. Humans need to propagate the species. You don't ask an animal why they make babies. Everyone is special on this planet and has something to offer as every single human is valuable and 100% unique. Humans are not robots that can be duplicated at an assembly line in a factory. When you die are you comfortable with the fact that your existence will end and you will turn into nothing but dust, with nobody to carry your knowledge, experience, and family history into the next generation? You simply popped into existence and then vanished.
If that's the case, you wouldn't find good quality guys avoiding beautiful girls who have a toxic personality. A good quality woman offers a lot. And while us guys may feel satisfied after porn, to use your analogy - we are satisfied for a while, but it's with junk food. We know it's not healthy, and if we do it every day our life turns shit. For some merely a hot girl will be enough to date, they make a compromise. But for those wanting long-term connection, to be a team, maybe start a family, they need more. They know the woman won't look just as nice after 30, 40, 50... His looks will fade too. But they value a lot more than looks. Each to their own, but this probably won't help OP who's frustrated with women being beautiful and (at this current moment) unattainable.
I'm guessing it might sound better in theory than practice. I'm sure many ladies think it's cute, but that probably assumes it's the right guy and they totally want to meet up with him. They're probably not imagining a guy who isn't their type or is a little nervous as he's just practicing this thing. I still feel it would be better later on, even date #2. For starters, if I bought a woman a book and she never even texted me back later, I would feel like quite the idiot lol! And then if she did meet up and felt a bit awkward or pressured - or worse, thought of us as friends only - I would actually feel guilty for the transactional nature "I bought you stuff - spend time with me". It sounds good and I'm sure it could work for some, but probably not ideal for most. And it's likely to put women in an awkward spot if he's not their type, which is why I typically favour low-key arrangements to being, no pressure! But I totally agree with date ideas and effort, trying new things and being unique/unapologetically yourself is gold!
Well yeah, obviously... that's how dating always works. There is no pick-up line or plan or routine that is 100% guaranteed to make the girl say yes, if she's not interested in you. That's fine if that's how you feel. I just totally disagree and don't feel that way at all. People ask to buy a girl a drink all the time, and they don't feel guilty about putting pressure on them or being transactional. So I don't see how this is any different. And as far as putting someone in an awkward spot, a guy asking you out is always awkward if you don't want to say yes. I really don't see how this would be any more or less awkward than any other way of asking someone out. It seems exactly the same to me. Again, I just totally disagree. I would love something like this in practice, if I was single and looking for someone to go out with. And as a woman who knows lots of other women and how they think, I think most of them would really enjoy something like this. If you don't like the idea, that's fine. Don't do it then. But I don't think it's something that's only a good idea in theory. But nor is it some kind of guaranteed way to get a woman, because that doesn't exist.
Why are you so antagonist toward someone simply for wanting to have children? You give us childless-by-choice people a bad name. Having children is a beautiful thing, for many reasons. Just because you don't want them doesn't give you the right to call everyone who does want them selfish and egotistical. That's just as disgusting as all the times I've been called selfish and worthless for choosing NOT to have kids.
All I am saying is, that from a purely technical viewpoint: 1. woman are considered beautiful by man, some more beautiful than others. 2. the beauty is dictated by the shape of the woman's body and face. 3. a computer can easily shape a woman face and body using the power of math. so to sum it up: beauty is replaceable by computer, and cheaply. your personality isn't replaceable by a computer because it's much much more complex to make. but the guy was talking about the woman's beauty so I answered him about the beauty only. I am sure you personally are a wonderful person. But i was talking about beauty only.
My friend, it might be good to start working on other things. It's my stupid opinion that when it gets hard to get a woman, it's a bad time to try. When you accomplish something meaningful, a woman will be there.
Well that's not all you said, at all, so if that's all you were trying to say, maybe you need to work on communicating your point more clearly.
Okay I'll agree to disagree, I feel I've made my points so won't repeat myself. For what it's worth if guys do use this advice I do hope to works for them!
And maybe a user that claims to be a woman should place a woman face in her profile pictures. speaking of bad communicating... about what I said: If a man is ugly but rich, woman will still want him. (cough jeff bezos) but if a woman is ugly, it doesn't matter so much if she is rich, smart or educated, she will still get less attention than beautiful dumb woman. So now with Porn, the beautiful woman are also in trouble, because their beauty is replaceable. So if we speak in terms of male attention only, (not love or affection) it seems like woman are having very hard time now. Take super models today, who post 100s if not 1000s of pictures, and got a huge amount of followers, what do they sell ? 3D models of themselves in different postures, in different clothes and in different backgrounds (with different lighting conditions). all of which can be replaced by computer. it's not there yet 100% but it's close. So a super model, who was getting used to get all the attention at elementary school, at high school and at college, is going to get beaten by a team of ugly male engineers who are 50 years old. I don't want to apologize for this facts, because I didn't make this rules... call me sexist if it makes you feel better.
Excuse you? What the hell does that have to do with poor communication? My profile clearly states that I'm a woman. Hence the reason you could clearly tell that I am one. I'm not some secret spy trying to deceive people. Women are welcome here. If you have a problem with that, you can leave. Secondly, you don't even have a picture at all, and like 90% of people here don't have pictures of themselves in their avatar, so why is it a problem for me? Last time I checked, LOSEmyselftoSAVEmyself isn't a submarine and onceaking isn't Shy Guy from Mario, but I don't see you whining about their avatars being deceptive. And for your information, I actually have a gender neutral photo for YOUR benefit, and the benefit of other men here who might be triggered by knowing women are here. I find it easier for everyone if it's not super obvious that I'm a woman, because it might make some people uncomfortable. Not that I even need to have an explanation for my photo, because it's literally a character from a freaking TV show. It's not like I'm pretending to be him. I guess I need to clarify that not only am I a woman, but I'm also not an Angel undercover as and FBI agent. Sorry if that was confusing for you. Didn't mean to deceive you with my clever tricks. I have no interest in responding to the rest of your comment, or continuing any kind of communication with you after such a ridiculous accusation.
Oh, and also, I didn't call you sexist. I said that what you said was sexist, because it was. Apparently it wasn't what you meant or something, so fine, but I can't read your mind... when you say something sexist, I'm going to call it out as being sexist. If you don't like that, you can just block me then, because I'm not going to apologize for saying something sounds sexist, and I'm certainly not going to change my avatar so you don't feel like I'm tricking you by pretending to be a television character.
