Would an orgasm from real sexual activity count as relapse?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Ton777, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Ton777

    Ton777 Fapstronaut

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    Dear Fapstronauts,

    I am kinda new to this and that’s why I really need your advice or personal experience. To get down to business I have been off porn for 7 days now. My physiological changes seem to be:
    - more energy
    - more swollen testecles
    - seem to get more morning wood
    That’s all I seem to notice at the moment.

    I am 30 and when a few years back a long relationship ended I got sucked into internet porn (during relationship it was not too frequent occasional but more or less occurred since age 12). During these years of frequent masturbation content got more hardcore started to see women differently and lost confidence. Recently met someone and when the time came to have sex I had first anxiety issues so couldn’t do it at all even tried ceallis but didn’t work but when she supported me in a few days I calmed down and started getting normal boners from her touch. Oral was more difficult than usual I had to actually fantasize to cum but I came more than once. When I put on a condom and tried penetration that’s when I started panicking, first it seems the rubber was too tight and small (I just grabbed without looking and never tried it with rubber before coz only had relationships) and it was hurting me but I stayed up and managed to penetrate but then started losing the erection gradually for like 5 minutes. Thankfully she was able to climax I obviously couldn’t. Been in panic since then and dreading the next encounter after tomorrow. Since that time I got bigger condoms and even bated in them to see how it fits. Could easily cum in it from very light touch (before used to choke hard sometimes without lube). Now that o have been 7 days sober will a failure or an orgasm coz a relapse? Thank you and what is your opinion on my situation? Very afraid that I won’t be able to climax with a woman ever again :(
     
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  2. Ton777

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    My goal is to completely wind myself off any porn or masturbation and I mean any. All I want is for my penis to feel sensitive enough again to normally climax with a woman. But my brain keeps saying u are damaged beyond repair and nofap won’t help.
     
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  3. TheLoneDanger

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    Yeah it depends on what your goal is. Are you in a “hard-mode” reboot? Do you wish be the absolute purest you can be to reverse whatever damages you have accumulated from PMO? If that’s the case, then technically you have broken your hard-mode commitment if you O. I hate to call that a relapse, though. I can’t speak for everybody, but I don’t see the damage in having successful intercourse since that’s the goal in most reboots. There is a chaser effect after having an O which does make rebooting tougher, but I wouldn’t call that actual damage. But it still all goes back to what you want to achieve here.
     
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  4. 5adn8m8

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    Hey there.
    First of all it seems that you haven't read the 43 page guide of this website.it's free and it was sent to you after you have signed up.It contains valuable information that every fapstronaut should know!
    Second of all relapsing is depended on your target.are you on a hard mode? in which you abstain form porn, masturbation and orgasm(PMO).If not, having an orgasm won't count as relapse.
    Third don't worry about your PIED(Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction) problem.it's natural and it happens to almost everyone who has been masturbating for a long time.If you abstain from masturbation and porno it will go away through the time.It might take 3 months, 6 months or more.It really depends.everyone experience different lengths of time. Remember that porn is your first and worst enemy.keep away from it at any cost.
    hope this helps.good luck!
     
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  5. Ton777

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    Never touching it again, deleted everything I ever had, formatted all devices got off stupid social media. Trying to only work on my relationship, family, work and exercise (been exercising and lost 13 kg) but my brain refuses to believe that even if I do 1 year or even 2 of nofap I won’t have successful intercourses and I afraid to lose my gf :(
     
  6. Ton777

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    To be honest my goal is to completely get rid of any desire to orgasm in an unnatural way and stop watching any porn ever again in my life. The goal is to only orgasm naturally with a partner as nature intended. So even if I orgasm with my partner when she travels soon I will continue nofap as usual until I see her again and try to enjoy something with her. I have literally limited my internet capacity to 4 GB just for work emails and news.
     
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  7. TheLoneDanger

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    Well, if you want to heal in the most effective way possible, that’s what hard-mode is for. I feel like it’s the truest sense of the reboot. If you’re truly not ready for sex and you have to force it with porn fantasy or whatever, you can see how it would slow down progress in your reboot. In that situation, you could always tell your partner and the two of you can work on it together using techniques like FANOS and even Karezza, which are both techniques of connecting without ultimately resulting in orgasm.

    BUT, I personally don’t hold abstinence from sexual intercourse in the same realm as abstinence from porn or masturbation, especially if you are able to have sex successfully. We’re here to improve on that intimate act, so why should we deny ourselves that same thing when we have these precious opportunities just for the sake of “doing it the right way”? Life is too short.

    Of course, there are many layers, factors, and variables to this method of overcoming the problem. I’m just giving an overview. But I hope it helps you in some way. Good luck!
     
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  8. Ton777

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    Thanks a lot, I will read about these techniques right away and will have a discussion with my partner.
     
  9. TheLoneDanger

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    @ILoathePwife has a lot of links in her signature about FANOS and Karezza. You can find her work in the women in reboot section. She is a very dedicated partner in this battle to help her husband.
     
  10. Ton777

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    Thanks again, will definitely check right away!
     
  11. ILoathePwife

    ILoathePwife Fapstronaut

    You can find the link in my signature here.
     
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