Addiction to certain pornstars/ scenes--WARNING: TRIGGERING THREAD FOR SOME

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by drummergenius, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. drummergenius

    drummergenius Fapstronaut

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    A really hard thing for me is when i stop PMO is I become obsessed thinking all the time about "that one scene that i'll never see again" or "that favourite pornstar" and then i relapse..
    how can i can i get over this guys? this is a serious one for me still struggling..




    Also another serious problem I have, Ive been single fo ages and not getting laid anytime soon as I work all the time and the college I go to is 90% guys.. I just don't have that female motivation, like I dont feel I can get the real thing so I constantly relapse?

    If someone can give me answers for these it would completely sort out my situation!
     
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  2. DireWolf

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    if you cant let go porn, you dont have to, this challenge is not forced upon you, if you cant let go you are not ready for it.
     
  3. the_big_o

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    you can change your preference of porn, like dislike with NLP. Try to find the characteristic of your porn star..what you like in them ? boobs ? ass? face ? and put yourself a goal to find a real girl with similar characteristics. You might find any girl that you like..not exactly what you were searching..but close enough to your taste. I was ALWAYS into boobs, not the huge..but big enough..my wife is how i like best.
    ALSO!! your taste will change. since i'm with my wife, my favorite porn stars were the ones that look like her (style of face, hair..body style, not only boobs)...so she also made me change my preference. She got a little fat after pregnancy and since then i started to like a little more fatty girls..
    I was amazed to discover this, even though i PMO on other girls..i was still searching for her.

    regarding..girls. NoFap can make you horny enough to search real girls. You have to put yourself in PLACES where there are girls..don't know whats in your area, but for example in salsa classes you can meet girls REALLY easily..and you get close to them, touch them in dancing..before you even start talking. Plus you'll discover later its fun, dancing also ( i hated dancing, and was terrible at it). Also yoga classes/workshops are good. any hobby class that have girls can give you a chance to meet...not to mention the simple way through dating sites. You have a ways to meet girls i guarantee you, you will start to see this when you are more horny and with more motivation to find real girl.
     
  4. drummergenius

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    big_o... Legendary advice!salsa and yoga are great for meeting girls, your right i need to get off my ass and motivate myself to meet people, it takes effort though which I need to start. I'm not really familiar with NLP, does it just involve switching your brain patterns revolving around addiction?
    thanks again for your input

    and Dire wolf I have so many disadvantages caused by porn I really have no choice, its just obsession with certain scenes/pornstars that catch me
     
  5. the_big_o

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    By the way, as single guy I used to go to salsa..even alone..just to meet girls.
    I met many through the internet. I lived in an ashram where I met many.
    I met my wife in a spirtual/emotional workshop
    My friend met his wife in yoga class..where he went alone..just to meet some people. Another guy i know met his wife in salsa (both of them dance like..WOW..its very sexy dancing if you know how)
    So its advice from experience..

    About NLP, In my opinion it can help with addictions, but i'm not sure it can heal them.
    It can help changing yourself faster. Its about playing with imagination.
    I'll give you simple NLP trick that you can try by yourself.

    It all done in the imagination.
    Lets put the purpose of this exercise is to change how you see/perceive porn.
    you said that you have some scenes/ porn stars that you miss them..you enjoy watching them.
    Are there any scenes/ porn stars that you don't miss them ? that you ok about you will not see them again ?
    I'll the purpose of turning how you see your favorites star, into star that you don't really care about.

    So first, take a mental picture (imagination) of a porn star that you don't care..she don't attract you so much. also look on a picture (IMAGINATION!!) of a porn star you care about. Whats the difference on how you see them ?
    It might be, that the porn star you care about, is bigger in the imagination, more clear ? glowing ?
    And the porn star that you don't care about? what can you see ? is she smaller ? more foggy ? more dark ?

    Take the characteristic the suits best to describe for brain that this porn star is not interesting and this one is.
    Lets say that a porn star you like, look bigger and there is more color to the picture (like contrast in TV). the porn star that you don't like, she is smaller and black and white.

    NOW FOR THE EXERCISE
    Imagine your favorite porn star..and change her picture in your imagination. Turn her picture into smaller one, make it black and white. do it.
    Then, open your eyes..do something else..think about something..maybe a pink elephant ?
    Close them again, imagine your favorite porn star, and as before, make her picture again black and white and smaller.
    repeat it at least 3 times.
    Later, whenever you have the craving, you notice that you IMAGINE..about watching the pictures/scene...even take the movie scene in your imagination, make it smaller and black and white (or whatever characteristics you like).
    Its a form of symbolic self hypnosis. changing your brain.
    You can find many NLP courses also through the internet, its very good skill, they say its like getting new operating system to your brain.
    You can also change how you relate generally to porn.
    I can tell you that i changed how i see porn from sometime pleasurable into addiction, i changed how i see porn into how i see cigarettes and drugs..it was a big game changer HOWEVER!! Porn suddenly was less an issue. i couldn't overcome horny feelings i have towards my wife, being horny..addiction is not only neourons and brain its also chemicals, semen in the balls putting pressure..bioenergy in the ball that makes the orgasms and general feeling of horny.
     
  6. matø

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    Hey big o. I'm gonna use that exercise for sure! I remember several scenes to little details. Seems like a really helpful tip.

    That is one of the really bad things about porn. Sometimes it stays with you forever.
     
  7. drummergenius

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    thats a fantastic exercise big-o, i just tried it now and it worked perfectly. you must have some more useful exercises? if so do tell

    I also changed my attitude towards NoFap recently while talking to a guy who actually gets laid regularly, not to see this as a prison/ celibacy being something of a hard task, but seeing it as a journey towards being a normally functioning person like everyone else who acts normal and confidently like a man naturally should with a woman. and see it as an opportunity to improve my fitness and physique
     
  8. the_big_o

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    you can use the same exercise for several programmings..
    make masturbation something that you don't enjoy (think about something you don't enjoy and compare)
    make sex with real girl as the most positive or something like that (whatever your goal is)

    Usually in my life when i need some change in myself, i used to do self hypnosis which always works best (not NLP). Basically i write some transcript for what i want then i record myself. I play this MP3 while going to sleep for a week..everyday..usually change comes slowly after this with much less effort. Its simply give your unconsciousness a command and a path to follow.
    I didn't do it for NoFap yet..i guess i didn't plan to do NoFap, i accidentally ran into some article about it..and then decided on the moment to NoFap.

    I suggest you read this book..it gives you explanation of how it works
    it gives you direction HOW to give commands to your brain. It the end you will know what sentence to tell yourself before you go to sleep to program yourself, they don't talk about recording yourself..
    If you really want to master this ability of programming (after reading the book), i suggest you search some lectures on
    Ericksonian hypnosis.

    http://www.amazon.com/Power-Your-Su...-1&keywords=the+power+of+the+unconscious+mind

    Getting in these stuff, will give you powerful tools to change yourself and your life.
    I used to be without any confidence, pretty quiet shy guy and i TOTALLY changed myself because of these stuff.

    Writing script takes sometime, i'm working now..maybe later will sit on this.

    there are several elements to NoFap, one of them is the brain..this is what i was touching with what i wrote to you.
    There is the level of energy (libido) which is accumulated in your balls. to take care of this you need Yoga/meditation...I have experience of 4 month NoFap with simply Yoga and meditation..It was REALLY EASY!!! as yoga takes your energy up and you are less horny by default. I relapse once i got a computer (didn't have the whole 4 months)...the PMO habit came back really fast as i didn't take care of any brain stuff, didn't even think porn was a problem at that time, it was more about saving energy for spiritual use.
    I suggest watch the movie Bliss (1997) its touching some yogic practices and theory.
     
  9. William

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    Hi drunnergenius, I am responding to your first post, and not what was posted after. You have to quit porn 100%. You can't quit it 90%, it has to be all or nothing. That one scene you love, your favorite porn star, you have to walk away from them. You have to consciously say to yourself "I will never see them again", to beat the problem. There is either quit or not quit. There are two types of guys here. Those who are trying to control their porn problem, and those who know they cannot control it, and are walking away from it. One group is staying, one group is leaving. Quitting porn is like losing a friend; it has been an emotional, mental, and physical crutch for us for so long, it's the one thing we can turn to every day no matter what to make things feel OK for a second or two. For some of us longer. I used it daily for years; dopamine is the greatest drug in the universe for us, we love it, it's hard to give up. Like you I had favorite scenes and favorite stars. I liked to follow them, search for them, wiki them, try to know them. That was part of my addiction. I did not know that at the time, but it was. We, addicts, almost come to feel we have a relationship with some of them, don't we? It's not just the sexual release, but we come to feel compassion for them. Even now I don't judge them, but I am telling you, if you want to quit porn, you have to quit it. You have to reach a point where you realize porn controls you, not the other way around, that you do not have the strength to be able to pick it up, play with it, and put it down again, and walk away whenever you want to. When you are in the grip of porn addiction, it tells you when you will use, not the other way around. There is no middle ground here. A lot of guys come here because they love their porn, they don't want to give it up, but they think they can learn to control it, to get on top of it. They see it as a little problem they would like to learn to control, to be in charge of it. I am telling you it cannot be done. There are two types of guys here, drummergenius. On the one hand, those who think they can control porn, and are going to spend seven days, thirty days, or thirty years, trying and failing to control it. On the other hand, there are the other guys, who can try and fail too, but know they cannot control porn and are therefore not trying to keep it in their lives, but who are trying to keep it out. You have to decide which side you are one, but if your are trying to keep it in, you will never get it out. You need to make that decision: Am I trying to keep porn in my life or am I trying to keep porn out? It is only when you decide to keep it out that you have the possibility of winning this. You can still lose it, but until you make that decision you will never win it. It's a hard call, and this is hard advice, but I don't think you came here to get easy answers.

    Good luck to you on your journey.