I apologize in advance if this was posted before. I tried finding it in this section, with no success. I'll delete this thread if I can find a duplicate post. My Question Please assume that my goal is to avoid porn and masturbation. But I want to have orgasms and sex with dates, and ultimately a steady girlfriend. Is it okay if I allow myself to use porn and masturbate only before dates? Reasons for/against I guess that's "playing with fire" because it could worsen my porn addiction. But if I didn't masturbate before the date, then the woman would probably get turned off by how horny I am.
Not a good idea to M before a date. It's good to have your sexual energy, but be careful to not ogle, grope, or make too many suggestive comments. You're simply assuming women will be turned off by your attraction to them. Assuming makes an ass out of you and me. Have your vitality, but maintain self-control. Your addict brain is simply trying to rationalize M, and I think you have some subconscious fear of success (I know I do).
I doubt that, new flash women get horny too. M before a date just a bad idea you should be focusing on how this women fits into your life and if there is a good fit or not. Look for good personality, good values, honesty, even temperament those are the things you should be looking at before a date, looks fade fast if there is none of the above I mententiod.
Very bad idea. You need to be focused and make that energy flow in order to make it work. Once I MOed before a date and it was a total failure. I was numb and she could sense it.
Thanks for your feedback. I seem to have better relationships with women when I masturbate before a date. I'm basing this on my pre-nofap dating experience, instead of assumptions. More importantly, I'm interested about your comment about subconscious fear of success. Please tell me more about why I have this fear. One of the best parts about nofap is learning about myself.
This sounds to me like your addiction trying to find a way to rationalize continued use of Portman don’t fall for it. As women we expect our first sexual experience with men to be over in two minutes or less. So please do not put so much pressure on yourself. Most women do not like to have sex for as long or in the same manner as you see in porn. Most get bored after 15 minutes
It kind of helps being somewhat similar to a dog in heat on a date. Otherwise you end up just acting as if she's your pen pal.
Just before a date, no. 2-3 days before a date maybe. Not just before because you will need that sexual component present to know how to learn how to incorporate it into relationship longterm. Letting her know that desire is there but you have control over it is what you want to project outwards. And 2-3 days before because abstinence can also cloud your perception and make you oblivious to more subtle body language signs.
you attract what you practice, if your a person that loves pmo you well have a gf who pmos , vice versa ,back in my pmo addiction days yes i attractive females but they pmo too, one would tell me when she M, etc,but those people are more prone to cheat cause they burn out theyre circuits with pmo an feel they need a new partner right away, with my no pmo life i notice i been bumping into a lot of religious girls, i imagine they are celibate too ,but im not religious so i dont ask them out i dont want theyre family frowning upon my religious free life, when i talk to females i cant think straight i fumble alot i accidentally drop things or spill things but i like that, its a great feeling, im just so attracted my mind races , you attract what you practice
but ive been single for 8 years lol woman are not attracted to me, i only been in two relationships, blah
I think there is a lot to this, and I would be willing to bet it’s on a almost subconscious level. And not just related to PMO, but to other values and practices as well.
yeah theres more to our mind body an subconsious then we can comprehend,but we can speculate, theorize
Dude you serious? I mean, how's the girl supposed to feel attracted to you, if you're lacking what makes you think and behave in a manly way? Plus, you'd be conditioned by the porn (depending on how hard it is) to get her naked and into a bed asap instead of - first and foremost - knowing her, make her laugh and such, thus you'd be way too nervous and prone to mess it up and/or make her unconfortable.
i actually dont see it as healthy for two pmo addicts to be together i dont see any attraction at work only lust an it turns out as just people using each other, manipulating each other, i say that from my past relationshiip experiences as a pmo addict i hated it
I shouldn't have mentioned the woman getting turned off by my horniness as a concern. Everybody is right. That's not a concern. The bigger concern is having my judgment clouded and behavior compromised by being horny, independent of how the woman perceives me. @Ra's Al Ghul and @HereAndThere seem to understand where I'm coming from. I especially like the 2-3 days before a date idea, though of course still "playing with fire".
So really depends on your willpower. Will you relapse back to porn and masturbation after the date ends? Personally, masturbating before date does help clear my mind temporarily. However, the feelings of guilt and disgust can slowly seep in and cloud my judgement. And eventually it can lead me to going back to porn.
If you want to stay addicted to porn, absolutely. You also have things backward, girls are more attracted to redblooded, sexual, men (caveat:not desperately horny) than neutered, asexual, soyboys.
woman who masturbate alot ,i dont know the masturbation routine for woman, but the more they masturbate the more they well be clouded with lust an only go for highly handsome, masculine, rich,men ,masturbation gives them the ability to choose an act snobby, they look at you like 'YOU ARE NOT MY TYPE YOUR PATHETIC"