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Whats worse and why?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. I often wondered people who abstain from P or MO or just M, which one is the worst for case scenario and why? Please include some scientific reasoning, not just "Because its bad"
     
  2. keepitreal-88

    keepitreal-88 Fapstronaut

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    P worse than M worse than O.

    P. Men are attracted to the feminine figure and femininity in general, in his natural habitat for hundreds of thousands of years each man has lived in a tribe of 50-250 people he will rarely see a naked woman other than his partner (if he has one). He only exists because each of his ancestors had a sex drive, they were driven to seek out a partner and reproduced. This man is also driven by the need to reproduce. Much of the reward of seeking and fulfilling this drive is the dopamine rush, it's gets him excited, things like the female form, femininity, the connection, the seduction, the fulfilment of getting what he desires. In his environment dopamine works perfectly.

    Fast forward to our present day and now you can load up hundreds of different women in different tabs, pictures or videos, nude, sexy and provocative and you can flick through them seeing a different woman 1 second after another on and on and on. Its overwhelming, dopamine rush after dopamine rush almost constantly. We still have the biological conditioning of the caveman, we are still wired up the same way and with all this unnatural over stimulation our brains get desensitised, doing the normal things in life that should excite us no longer hold much interest, its too easy to find some P and feel good. P completely messes up the brain and our reward system but we can't get enough of it. Avoid like the plague, you'll never be able to get enough.

    M. Tricky one, can be good to keep your reproduction system healthy or understand yourself or very damaging if you do it too much and only for the rush of feel good. For any P addict its best to not to M at all, too many links to P, and too much M is too much easy reward. We've probably all fapped enough for a lifetime anyway.

    O. Natural, healthy. Sure there are benefits to semen retention but there are also benefits to O too, especially when its combined with the emotional connection of a partner. If you avoid O too long your body might force it out anyway. Its like holding in fart, you shouldn't feel ashamed if one slips out naturally, its a function of our body.
     
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  3. Fenix Rising

    Fenix Rising Fapstronaut

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    Nothing of the above is bad for you, if you can do it in moderation. The problem becomes when you can't. Addictive compulsive behaviour is all about not being able to control your behaviour when you know, your behaviour is deteriorating your mental, physical health and social life yet you can't resist it. I could explain all the neuroscience behind addiction, but I'm really not in a mood. Look at these previous posts, if you want to learn more about it:

    Jan 17, 2019 -> Dr. Marc Lewis: Science of addiction
    Jul 15, 2019 -> The Brain and Recovery: An Update on the Neuroscience of Addiction
    Jul 2, 2019 -> Michael Kuhar, Ph.D. The Addicted Brain
    Jun 9, 2019 -> How The Internet Changes Your Brain
    May 24, 2019 -> recovery timeline
     
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  4. very interesting guy that you put O at the very bottom, I've seen other people do the same, I say that because in a lot of energy exercises or retention whatever you want to call it, it's all about being able to O without loosing anything.
     
  5. will check it out, thanks! I just feeling like if I can look at myself from a third person perspective kinda like a movie, of what I'm doing I'll be able to help myself better and catch myself off guard rather than letting impulses take over.
     
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