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Why you should thank the coronavirus - it makes you stronger

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by StonePlacidity, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    People on nofap fail because they couldn't fight the urge. Why? It has to do with will power and our habits. PMO is a habit, and our brain connects this habit with pleasure. The more PMO you do, the stronger the connection is (ie. harder for you to get rid of it).

    When doing nofap, you don't grow simply because of your streak. You grow because you fight off urges. When you're fighting off urges, you're cutting the connection between PMO and pleasure. PMO is not pleasure, it is craving in disguise.

    A person could be having a high streak (100 days?) but he hasn't grow much when it comes to nofap if he doesn't fight off urges. You can numb yourself with other addictions or distractions (youtube/social media/gaming), and there is no urge. When there is no urge, there is no growth.

    I think the coronavirus can make us stronger because it provides a higher chances of getting an urge, which is also a higher chance of encountering it and fighting it off. Once you beat the devil in your mind, you won't be fearing anything.
     
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  2. hollyman

    hollyman Fapstronaut

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    as selfish as this statement is, i could not agree with you

    this is not a fun situation to make fun of, those number are not ordinary number, its human life !!!
     
  3. gingeralan

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    I don’t think he’s making fun, he’s showing how we can see the current situation in a positive light. Emerging from this situation will show us that we can do things that are difficult even in extremely adverse circumstances
     
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  4. hollyman

    hollyman Fapstronaut

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    ok my bad then sorry
     
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  5. I agree. Yes, it's mostly habit and distracting yourself from the urges with other habits (good or bad) won't help but is simply a form of running away which means that should the time come when you can't act on your new habits, that old, PMO habit will come back with a vengeance.

    Might I also add that PMO in itself is usually a way to escape and hide from some deeper issues as well. The whole situation with COVID-19 is unfortunate but it doesn't mean we can't make the best of a bad situation. I've found already that I've had to go through some deep issues under the surface when starting detox. PMO was an escape from it and dealing with those issues actually lessened the urges by a large degree because there was no longer something to run and hide from. This doesn't mean I've dealt with every issue or that even those I have are finished yet.

    Not everyone is in the same boat and I get that. For those that have used or are using PMO as an escape:
    Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same.
    You're only delaying the inevitable which makes it harder when it comes. Face it now and be the man you are meant to be.

    One step at a time. (1step)
     
  6. DerSchütze

    DerSchütze Fapstronaut

    Try and infect yourself with the virus, if you're young and healthy you probably won't die, and the virus will make you feel so bad you won't even want to think of relapsing. Even better if they quarantine you in a hospital or FEMA camp, it's free rehab.
     
  7. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    I'm not making fun of it bro! I'm just saying that we could benefit from isolation and social distancing

    also -
    @DerSchütze bruh wtF?
     
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  8. hollyman

    hollyman Fapstronaut

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    and i already said that im sorry, wtf is wrong with ya ? read carefully please
     
  9. magic05

    magic05 Fapstronaut

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    I'm heavily (in a negative way) affected by the current coronavirus quarantine situation.

    At the same I've always been very interested in history and read numerous books.

    I can't help but think that all this PMO addiction stuff and coronavirus situation seems so absurdly ridiculous and pathetic when compared to the hardships that people had to endure in WW1, WW2, Holocaust, Soviet gulags, Black Death, great Chinese famine, Spanish flu, etc...

    Is It just me or does anyone feel the same? It doesn't make me feel better, but actually diminishes my self-confidence and self-worth even more, because I'm complaining about things that seem pathetic compared to many historic events?
     
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  10. Personally, no. There were different times back then and the technology was so vastly different that it’s hard to compare. Overall they had more physical challenges while now we have more psychological challenges.

    Think about how addictive social media is especially with how it’s designed be that way. Many youth nowadays doesn’t even know how to play if you take away their smartphones. What the hell are children doing with smartphones anyways? But of course if they don’t have one then their peers humiliate them and treat them as outcasts. The exceptions seem to only support this generic rule now.

    On top that we have an overwhelming amount of constant instant gratification going on. You’re bombarded by it from every direction at all times day or night unless you seclude yourself in a pitch black room with no sound of signals and go to sleep. You can’t spend you’re life that way. Lose weight? We have a quick fix! Alone? Dating app! Swipe! Lonely and want some relief? P all over the place! See that car? Oh look attractive beings all over the place all around it! Your phone is shit, get this new one now because you need to have things open and close and download and upload and send and receive and whatever else right now, immediately at the speed of thought because all those app messages are waiting for your reply while you skip your music to the song you MUST listen to right exactly at this moment.

    Dopamine, serotonin, repeat. Over and over.

    No, we don’t have those same hardships that were around during WW2 or the gulags or similar. I’m not sure how well we’d survive in those times as we are right now. I don’t know how well they’d survive in out times as they were then. We would get killed, they would go insane. At least that’s my guess.

    The point it that giving up because you want to compare yourself to quality of living from a time long gone isn’t useful. Compare yourself who you were yesterday instead. It’s helping me not give up because I haven’t achieved my long-off goals that I cannot in any fathomable way reach as I am now. It’s like trying to dunk a basketball when I can’t even put on a shoe let alone tie my laces.

    As far as I can see it, the only way to get out of this western society pall of depression that seems to hang over people if they don’t get enough attention or likes or have something new to do at all times is better ourselves. Not the world around us but ourselves. If you think there isn’t something like that hanging over western society then look at what’s happening with people being stuck at home during the pandemic.

    Celebrities, mostly useless and pointless now, are posting pure cringe on social media and crying because they’re not getting enough attention and nobody is around to tell them they’re amazing are hours a day even though they’re regular everyday people but more narcissistic and usually bigger asses. I know I’m being harsh but really it’s been the truth for a long time. Weinstein and the hashtag movement and so many other things finally revealed show what they’ve been like for ages.

    Don’t give up. Don’t be bored - there’s plenty to do. Your interest in history is actually inspiring and if you truly enjoy it why not keep feeding that interest? Cabin fever is easy to stave off for long periods if you can keep to a routine, add in some hobbies, some randomness and work on bettering yourself.

    You got this. One step at a time. (1step)
     
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  11. LekkerPotjie

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    In all honesty, I'm finding it a bit harder with the whole Corona situation. For instance, we are now on lockdown, which means being stuck in the house, and boredom slowly starts to set in. Lol. Doing my best to distract myself though. Day 3, I got this!
     
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  12. magic05

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    Very inspiring answer @Archimal .

    I agree with you on the aspect that current generations have to bear much more psychological hardship than historical generations who had to deal with physical hardship (=death due to war and lack of basic needs). Still I feel pretty pathetic when I f.e read stories about holocaust survivors.

    I have no idea whether there are scientific studies about that, but I suspect that past generations had more sex and more family solidarity than modern ones? Because there was no social media.

    We might live for 80-90 years, but thanks to the Internet/social media we are the loneliest/most depressed/most addicted generation ever so far. Everything seems so superficial and interchangeable/arbitrary to me. Everything seems so unvelievably senseless.

    I have 15 years of experience with Internet addiction (PMO, news, social media) so I can understand how strong of an impact it has on people. It stole years of my life. I would like to see a counter like in GTA that shows exactly how much time I spent on PMO, news articles and social media all of my life so far.

    Still it's such a double-edged sword. Without the Internet I wouldn't have met my ex-GF. Without the Internet this forum and exchange of dialogue wouldn't exist.
     
  13. Donijuan

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    Finding the brightside in a pandemic, that's what i call an improvement when doing NoFap and also doing other habit. we're becoming more positive to life and that's a good thing.
     
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  14. Sorry I disagree. Because 1) Willpower only is not the solution. 2) This Virus will put people in a trigger to stay in home and maybe alone for sometime. 3) If someone who is fapping excessively and not able to stop the cycle he will have weaker immune system, so he or she might be in more risk to get the virus and might struggle more with it. So NO Thank You.
     
  15. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    chill bruH
     
  16. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    Yes thank you for posting your opinion. What is the other solution? Also if a person have a high nofap streak through distraction (gaming, alcohol, eg.), do you think is healthy? Or is it better if we could confront our problems like now (isolating ourselves)?
     

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