1. Welcome to NoFap! We have disabled new forum accounts from being registered for the time being. In the meantime, you can join our weekly accountability groups.
    Dismiss Notice

How to have a healthier view on women?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by helpfuldude, Dec 11, 2020.

  1. helpfuldude

    helpfuldude Fapstronaut

    185
    132
    43
    Hi everyone. I'm on nofap, and I have a partner. My problem is that I simply cannot stop objectifying women in one way or another. I want my partner to wear sexier clothes, workout and have a tighter body, be ready for sex everyday, and occasionally be submissive in the bedroom. Part of me wishes that I was with a woman who did all these. I know it's all wrong, and I know these things are superficial, but knowing these intellectually isn't enough. I somehow need to internalize this so that I don't want it anymore.

    I hope that nofap will help this, but is there any other way to supplement it? Is therapy the only way, or does anyone have an experience with this? Any book recommendations? Thanks.
     
    disallowedname and blacklabel92 like this.
  2. ItsSeal

    ItsSeal Fapstronaut

    314
    823
    93
    Read some books about how the brain of a woman works. You will learn that the woman brain works completely different then your own! You get some insights why woman make their choices and why they hate lines like ''i want to have her ready for sex everyday''! Woman do not want sex in the first place, they want to love! And these demanding things? Would you like a person who is controlling your life!?
     
    Mr.Tony and blacklabel92 like this.
  3. helpfuldude

    helpfuldude Fapstronaut

    185
    132
    43
    Thanks for your reply. As I said, I know this intellectually but I this doesn't change my desires. And my situation is not as worse as trying to "control" my partner.
     
  4. Monkeybear

    Monkeybear Fapstronaut

    61
    81
    18
    Spend more time with yourself alone to figure out your own thoughts and truly take the time to understand the influence porn has had on your perception of women
     
    blacklabel92 likes this.
  5. blacklabel92

    blacklabel92 Fapstronaut

    582
    1,875
    123
    Right! Ahaha as i was reading his post i was thinking damn does he want a partner or a sex slave?
     
  6. blacklabel92

    blacklabel92 Fapstronaut

    582
    1,875
    123
    HINT, HINT..
     
  7. blacklabel92

    blacklabel92 Fapstronaut

    582
    1,875
    123
    I agree with @Monkeybear. Try spending time alone just for a little while.. Pick up some solo hobbies like, jogging, shadow boxing, biking.. Do some soul searching.. You are more honorable than you seem.. I can feel it.. And realize at the end of the day that most women on this earth are a blessing to us men, fr.. We need to protect, cherish and love the ones who are worth it, like your partner might be one.. You just gotta find it and see it.. Good luck bro..
     
    Monkeybear likes this.
  8. Squatzandoatz

    Squatzandoatz Fapstronaut

    45
    74
    18
    I try to think about it this way:

    "Do I want to be a man who can't control himself and can't stop looking at good looking women on the street? Is that something a strong-willed, moral man would do?"

    Good luck with your trials, stay strong!
     
  9. Rustcan45

    Rustcan45 Fapstronaut

    47
    29
    18
    If you stop touching yourself it wont matter what your girlfriend looks like. Please dont tell your girlfriend she needs to workout or have a tight body. You're doing irreversible damage to her self esteem. Projecting your high standards of beauty unto her is seriously fucked up. Apologize to her and tell her what you've told us. Maybe you wont get the revelation that you need but some serious effort into bettering yourself is the right move.
     
    anselem likes this.
  10. helpfuldude

    helpfuldude Fapstronaut

    185
    132
    43
    Thanks for all the replies. Again, I'm intellectually aware of how bad these are, it's just that they are at the dark corners of my subconscious so I need some method to address them.

    Secondly, though I did find benefit in some of your suggestions, some of your arguments seemed inflexible and absolute. For example:

    Would you remain quiet if your partner only slept with you once a year? Or would you remain quiet if she gained 100 kilograms? No matter how much you tell yourself not to project your standards, the answer will probably be no. Though I am aware that my situation is nowhere near those extremes, what I'm saying is that, everybody has some standards. I'm hoping that nofap will shift my standards to a healthier level.
     
  11. You're right, They want love and respect and especially care, Any good books you recommand ?
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2020
    blacklabel92 likes this.
  12. This view is very likely induced by porn addiction, the way i see it, focus on your addiction and remind yourself that these kinds of views are usually very driven by your porn addiction. I used to think very similarly back in the day, but as some time went by you just see women as normal human beings and you get to notice things about them that are more important than looks.
     
  13. SickSicko

    SickSicko Fapstronaut

    591
    2,261
    123
    Hey I'm no woman nor an expert but I'm pretty sure they want both.
     
    lbridges253 likes this.
  14. jferdig73

    jferdig73 Fapstronaut

    32
    101
    33
    I would give anything to have this part of my head fixed!! if you find an answer I would love to hear it. I am back in therapy and this is one of my biggest items to work on. I can't even go to a shopping center any more, I get so manic my heads spins at times (that is how it feels) then I get angry because what I cant have them...or the way I think about them, why cant I think better of them. They have been objects for so long I don't know how to go backwards. Have been doing the avoiding places and people thing for a while but I can not do that forever. lets exchange real ideas..
     
  15. There two tricks i use to avoid all what you mentioned above:

    1/ A strong will to control my brain!
    2/ Don't even look at Women Faces or any parts of their body! Always ignore looking at them in a public to avoid Fantasing!
    When talking to a wimen always look down, do not even look at her.
    (( This technique was used by Chanakya, an Indian Philosopher )) - It was depected on his Movie.
    3/ Control the brain like if you are controlling a Dog, Alelways say STOP! STOP! and change thought, whenever he wants to take you to a Fantasy Trip.


    I hope this helps.
     
  16. yeah, i do this stuff to. Lost of nice chicks on school, so ill just loo away or i get an instant boner.
     
    Mr.Tony likes this.
  17. It's completely normal, you are a male an Ape, you belong to the Great Apes.

    You belong to the Homo-Sapien Specie my friend. And like any other Mammal, you must survive and reproduce. That's written on your DNA. Luckly, you have a Brain and Self Control, you can stop this with a strong will and applying what i mentioned above.
     
    anselem likes this.
  18. disallowedname

    disallowedname Fapstronaut

    27
    26
    13

    I see you are misunderstood here: people repeat what you know already - though the fact that knowledge doesnt help, is exactly your problem right? So if you ask for a technique that isnt nofap anyway, i highly recommend you meditation. There is really a lot on youtube, just go through it. Dont expect wonders in the beginning - but by time it will help. And dont simply "hate" your wishes: explore them. If you begin to look at yourself as simply wrong and someone with awful views on the female sex, it surely wont helping.

    And btw. there are surely women who "like to be objectivated"; not judging it; just saying (yes submissive too). This isnt meant as a rationalization - but as a simple observation. The point is not that much if we do objectivate someone, but when! and if it is the only way we see that person: because lots of women love to be an object: in the right moment - for the right person - and when they can be sure: they are as well a person not only a body. This makes an essential difference
     

  19. I'd love to learn why woman are glued to their phones so much. I work as a host some times in retail and its literally all I see every other day. I find it annoying that you say hi and they can't catch a glimpse away from their phones. Especially the really attractive woman.
     
  20. disallowedname

    disallowedname Fapstronaut

    27
    26
    13
    Because the smartphone is addictive as hell. There are studies about that. And if she is attractive and she uses social networks the chane is high that she receives an endless stream of attention-likes-flirty-messages and bla. A horrible dynamic and all over the place
     
    Futureself likes this.

Share This Page