To have victory masturbation session or not?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by bartledoo, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. bartledoo

    bartledoo Fapstronaut

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    We have no idea what struggle you're referring to. Is it not fapping? or not looking at porn? or having trouble getting a woman? so many topics have been mentioned in this thread.

    He's saying that the guy shouldn't claim its not that hard, considering he has an advantage over us.

    I bet even a kiss would help with fap urges.

    Do you have a source for this? I do believe you, I just want to see if he wrote any additional information on this.

    Because he said 4-5 months in his TedX video. That video is fucken amazing. You know how many times I've watched it?

    I'm gonna keep mentioning this. I don't know if Alexander wrote this, but someone did:

    http://www.nofap.com/about/
     
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  2. mv8652

    mv8652 Fapstronaut

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    Okay, I'm calm. I'm not frustrated (or jealous) that he's in a relationship, and I didn't know then (because he hadn't yet said) that it's a long-distance relationship in which he's "being with" his girl every 30-40 days. That being the case, he undoubtedly gets some Hard Mode experience during those intervals. It continues to rankle me, though, when dudes replace fapping with bedding girlfriends (or hook-ups) and think that their experience is equal to that of those of us on Hard Mode! To my way of thinking, fapping is more morally defensible (though I realize that notions of morality are bound to vary among fapstronauts).
     
  3. mv8652

    mv8652 Fapstronaut

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    I see a big distinction. Hard Mode means neither fapping nor having sex (regardless of whether for 30 days or for life). Life Mode is committed to not fapping for life (regardless of whether or not having sex). The two are independently variable. Different fapstronauts could be in neither, in either, or in both.
     
  4. NoBrainer

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    Yes, except that the person he was referring to never said it was easy in the first place.

    I appreciate your frustration mv8652, because hard mode is really... well... hard. But this is just the way it is. Some guys have been able to get partners while PMOing, and others like me and perhaps you (I don't know what your situation is) have been completely engrossed by PMO and haven't had the courage to ask girls (or guys) out. Everyone is different and has different goals. The opportunity is on us whether we can recover to the stage where interacting with the people we are attracted to is natural and part of everyday life.
    Umm okay. I don't see the distinction personally, but maybe that's just me. :confused:
     
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  5. bartledoo

    bartledoo Fapstronaut

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    Haha if only you guys could see what CountryDude wrote to me.

    Overall, Hard mode is self-discipline.

    Jacking off to porn make you forget about your female problems. You take it away, then you have no choice but to face your problems head on.

    Its like a pet animal being reintroduced into the wild. You have no easy food source, you gotta fend for yourself from now on.

    Food source == sexual cravings.

    He didn't really differentiate the two. "Hard Mode means neither fapping nor having sex (regardless of whether for 30 days or for life)". If you're not fapping for life, then you're on Life mode.

    Both modes have 90 days of no orgasm.

    After 90 days on Hard mode, you can reintroduce porn-less fapping and female responsible orgasms.

    After 90 days on Life mode, you can reintroduce female responsible orgasms.

    I doubt anyone on Hard mode here was planning to not jack off for the rest of their life. They may even go 2 years without jacking off, whatever seems necessary for their reboot. But not a life-long commitment.

    Life mode is serious shiz. If you're going away on business for 3 months, and your woman won't be able to visit and relieve you, tough luck.

    I am gonna try Life mode. Theres a couple reasons:
    1. No forced ejaculations. When you fap, your body really forces itself to make you orgasm. False sex really tires out your dick.
    2. You really prove how much your girl means to you. You let her have control over your highest ability to be aroused.
    3. Orgasms are kept in moderation, and are only done in the highest rewarding ways.
     
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  6. Hiro 304

    Hiro 304 Fapstronaut

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    I think you should. I've did it after my streak and felt perfectly fine, no addiction, no depression, no nothing.
     
  7. bartledoo

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    So I just had victory fap. 3 jack offs.

    I was laying on my bed, searching around my pelvis for my tight psoas muscle. I finally found it, and released it. Once it was released, there was a surge of sexual energy that I couldn't escape no matter what. All it took was 5 strokes until lift off.

    If you wanna learn what your psoas muscle is, look here: http://blog.voltathletics.com/home/2015/3/25/psoas-talk-with-christye

    I do feel like crap now, but I don't blame myself for doing it. That was one of the most powerful surges I've ever felt.

    And I'm kinda scared. I gotta release more tight muscles around my pelvis, and that will probably give me more sexual energy. I want to begin abstinence again.
     
  8. Lol, ah bro... Really wanted you to hold on a bit longer :cool:
    But I can imagine how good it must have felt. LOL

    I applaud you for your long streak, but I still think you should have held out longer, but no worries, mate. The choice is yours.

    Do you feel rebooted in general?
     
  9. bartledoo

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    I also wanted to held out longer, but it just happened so fast. Like 10 seconds.

    I loosened my psoas(its was tight for years), my dick shot up like a rocket, and extreme urges to blow a load.

    I don't think my reboot counted. Because it was so easy for me, since my body wasn't in proper functioning order. Balls and wang didn't have proper circulation.

    People may wonder how my psoas got so tight, when it tightens up when you sit too long:
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    But I can't wait to experience the surge again.
     
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  10. How do you loosen the psoas muscle? I want to try it as well.
     
  11. mv8652

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    Okay, bartledoo, you've done it, and you now want to go back into extended fapstinence again. That's fine. Just beware of the chaser effect. That's the strong urge that you will have over the next few days to continue the fapping binge instead of reentering cessation. If you give in and binge, it might be weeks before you restart fapstinence, and you'll lose all of your progress.
     
  12. bartledoo

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    It took me like a week to find it. Theres so much other stuff around there, you gotta dig around.

    If its tight, then you gotta find the tender spot on it, and press your fingers against that spot for a whole minute.

    This is the video that finally helped me find it:


    I know those cravings. Your dick is begging, "just one more time please"
     
  13. newman_unleashed

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    Sounds like a waste to me. Why deliberately take a step back? I guess you have to ask yourself if it was your brain finding a way to get you to give it its fix, or if you made a deliberate decision.

    Good luck with the chasers.
     
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  14. bartledoo

    bartledoo Fapstronaut

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    Common, enough fap shaming.

    I went 3 months without doing it. The last time I did that, was 7 years ago. Progress is progress.
     
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    Yeah its progress all-right but I'm going for life mode... at least I'll try to.
     
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  16. NoBrainer

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    Hey. Sorry for the delayed response. I'm not quite sure where I got the number 7 from, although I think I got it from Gary's website.

    I was mainly basing it off this video, in which Gary discusses it from about 12:10 to 13:30.

     
  17. bartledoo

    bartledoo Fapstronaut

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    Thanks brah, I'll watch it tonight.
     
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  18. bartledoo

    bartledoo Fapstronaut

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    I've returned.

    First off, why did someone change the thread title from "victory fap" to "victory masturbation session"? it kinda feels like theres a moderator out there, who's trying too hard to prove himself worthy of being one.

    Secondly, I've returned to PMOing. Before you say "how could you!!", you can't quit, without eliminating the reason why you do it in the first place. Even without fapping, I'll still feel lonely living in this stupid isolated village filled with grannies. It sucks enough being single, but when you also live 30 KM away from the nearest attractive female, you can't quit fapping without going insane. I gotta deal with my problems one-by-one.
     
  19. Master of chastity

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    now you have made me curious: which village do you live in? (at least give me the country )
     
  20. Booster

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    I gave myself the same reward to have after 90 days.
    But you know what, now im 80 days, PMO just doesn't interest me anymore.

    If your reward to giving up is the very thing your trying to give up then your still addicted.
     
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