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When does rebooting end??

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by antanad, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. antanad

    antanad New Fapstronaut

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    They say it takes 66 days to make a new habit.
    Reading the forum threads members are saying they have relapsed after 60 days or 160 days and still fell bad and go on binging on PMO.
    I am new here and am just starting this campaign. My question is if I continued nofap for 66 or more days why don't i develop a new habit??
    How would I know my PMO addiction has ended??
    Suppose my compulsive PMO has ended and I do it occasionally like 3-4 times a month would it also be considered as a addiction??
     
  2. Candun

    Candun Fapstronaut

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    There's no magic number and it depends on your goals really. My personal definition for a "completed" reboot is when I'm at the point where I no longer have any want or reason to watch P and live my life without it being a factor at all.
     
  3. @Candun has said it correctly. To add to that for you to think on a little. The fundamental issue with the hyper-stimulation and dopamine surges that porn gives the brain is that its novelty effect is so great, so immense, that our brains has an incredibly difficult time moderating it.
    The nature of lust itself is one that is fueled by desire, by “fire”. So even if you calm the flames down and get it to a reasonable size, every time you use porn again you just pour a little more gasoline on the fire. Causing it to grow. The issue is that our human mind is such that we are programmed to desire and consume as much sex, sexual novelty, “partners” as possible.
    (This was once and evolutionary advantage and nature’s way of keeping the human race alive.)
    Today’s technology tricks us into thinking we are accomplishing this highly sought after prize and floods our brain with good feelings. The problem is it doesn’t end, it doesn’t require any effort(building of character or traits or skills), and it’s so graphic that we expose ourselves to levels of intensity that are unnatural.
    I went off on a tangent to make you realize that the only real solution to freedom and controlling your own sexual energy is to stop using porn entirely. I think by many “standards” I might not be considered an addict. But because I understand what I said above, and the fact I can’t go 1 single year without it yet, proves to me otherwise. That porn still has a hold on me and therefore I am not truly free of its grip. Some may be happy with 3-4 times a month, but they are only fooling themselves that they aren’t still addicted. Just like how not every alcoholic is a jobless bum on the street, begging. Many are functional addicts who hold jobs but are still slaves.
     
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  4. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    Why would this be your goal? Would you recomend to an alcoholic friend that they should return to drinking "3-4 times a month"? No, of course not. Why not just stay away from porn forever?
     
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  5. eagle rising

    eagle rising Fapstronaut

    It ends when you becoming completely conscious of the movement of desire, and when you understand that the human longs to be boundless. The material world has bounds, many constructs that get in the way. So, the desire must be placed in another dimension.
     
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  6. Cpt Morgan

    Cpt Morgan Fapstronaut

    In reality a reboot never really ends. It is a constant battle everyday. It's just that by time you develop a tougher skin and that battle becomes easier to fight with every day that passes. But you're never fully in the clear, temptations will remain for your entire life.
     
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  7. theMotivator

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    Reboot ends when you relapse. (So it should never end)

    And even if you do it once a month afterwards, you will get addicted again and the negative effects will come back.
     
  8. Fly310562

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    Take it day by day and live in the moment. Thinking about the end of the journey shows how impatient we are with the process. Easier said than done but it helps to keep a clear mind. Patience is key
     
  9. Rebooting ends when you finish 100+ days of recovery and you don’t think about porn. Quitting an addiction means you have to build your life around to where you don’t need the vice. For example, I know alcohol is legal (in USA) but I don’t binge drink because I have build my life around not being tempted by alcohol.

    This is my personal opinion on when rebooting ends. Trust me, porn is very hard to quit when your lonely.
     
  10. Mr Anderson

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    brother it depends on how deep you went it's not about habits this addiction also modifies neurochemicals and brain, don't think standard reboot works for everyone it might take longer depending on your personal situation
     
  11. sam30

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    i am on 97 days but slowly thinking back on my sexual fantasy but i am trying to stay focus and journal
     
  12. skaterdrew

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    My honest opinion is if you have let your PMO addiction get to such a severe extent, that regardless how long you manage to stop PMOing, that it won't take much to bring you back to your old behaviour.

    So in other words I don't think anyone truly addicted ever truly heals, regardless how long they have been clean from PMO.

    So guys who have been chronically addicted for a long time, serious edging and binging on PMO for years. They might manage to get insanely long streaks of no PMO, and even if one day they have a slip, they might not find the PMO as thrilling as it used to be.

    But in my opinion it wouldn't take a guy like this, who has had as long streaks away from PMO much slips to end up extremely weak for PMO again, and to fall back into the habit, into the addiction.

    So in other words I don't think you ever truly heal, if you have been chronically addicted to PMO.

    You also need to remember that a lot of guys PMO and get excited by porn and artificial sexual stimulation who don't even have an addiction to PMO. So it's unlikely you will ever get to the level it will never excite you at all anymore, regardless how long you get streaks completely clean from it.

    and remember because you have been chronically addicted to PMO, it won't take you much slips to fall back into your old behaviours, regardless how long you have been clean from it.

    So I don't think anyone who has ever been chronically addicted to PMO ever truly heals, regardless how long they have been clean from PMO.

    That is my honest opinion.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2021
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