Sex is never free, so why should prostitution be shamefull ?

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by nfpexperiment, Mar 2, 2022.

  1. nfpexperiment

    nfpexperiment Fapstronaut

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    Hi,

    Not that I am promoting prostitution,if prostitution is defined as pay money to get sex, but to get sex the man always pays for it, it is never free.
    Even in marriage or simple date, think of all the effort the man must do to get married or date, for example pay for the date diner, transport,movie, pay for the gifts, thinking of strategies to get the women to date you, could be time consuming, time and mental energy costs money. Sex is never free for men, men always pay for sex, date and marriage is just another form of prostitution.
     
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  2. jcl1990

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    I have some appreciation for this post.

    I do think though that because we have been warped by pornography viewing and masturbation, that we cannot see clearly in regards to dating. I notice after I PMO, for the next few days I CANNOT think how I would like to think. Its like I become a different person for a few days. And there is no way out of it. It is a very strange thing... to be twisted by a PMO session, and to not have a way to get back to feeling normal.

    I think if the man is not looking at porn or masturbating, and also living an overall healthy life, then his energy levels will be very different and much better than a man who just finished PMO.

    When a man is in a good energy state, then going on a date and thinking of stuff to say and all that, it becomes natural and almost effortless. The pressure is gone and the man just does what is enjoyable. And there is no stress
     
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  3. Sean Edie

    Sean Edie Fapstronaut

    Sex is much more than what prostitutes give. It's supposed to bring two people together physically and mentally and when we are addicted to porn, we are connected to a screen. Both parties have to give more than just money even in prostitution which is why we need to build a relationship before going straight to sex
     
  4. DeeJ4y

    DeeJ4y Fapstronaut

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    You can have sex without, "paying" for it.
     
  5. nfpexperiment

    nfpexperiment Fapstronaut

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    Usually the men have to pay for it in some form, read the rationale male of rollo tomassi, women hypergamy nature.
     
  6. Sean Edie

    Sean Edie Fapstronaut

    Both pay. We give our lives to each other when we become a couple and even money wise, there's a give and take. Since my wife makes more than me, she probably pays for most of the bills
     
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  7. beaverreaver

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    Men who don't have much experience of dating, or socializing with women in general, tend to think dating for women is easy.
     
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  8. Giuseppe

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    To equate marriage with prostitution only serves to reveal the deep wound of cynicism that is within you. Marriage entered with the correct intentions is the union of love with sex, while prostitution is the divorcing of love from sex. The former raises the human to a dignity higher than the beasts because it is a communion of personhood, while the latter puts the human on the equal footing with beasts by removing personhood for the sake of self-gratification.


    You have either had your love rejected or you have never been truly loved.
     
  9. nfpexperiment

    nfpexperiment Fapstronaut

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    Well just observe reality, some marriages are the same as prostitution, fyi , women dont really love men for who they are but for what(status, power, wealth) they are. See the rationale male by rollo tomassi.
     
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  10. Sean Edie

    Sean Edie Fapstronaut

    That's not all marriages though. Both sex and marriage has been messed with and there are women who marry for money and status but there are also men who do the same. Marriage can be an amazing experience and you share your comforts, sorrows and even good times. Please don't give up on women altogether
     
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  11. Robindale

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    Very cynical attitude and approach and viewing it as a transaction. Good luck forming any meaningful, lasting relationship with that. Hope you're able to move beyond that and find the right person for you and develop that meaningful, loving relationship.
     
  12. DeeJ4y

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    I agree that some women might only look at mans status but it is a bold claim that everyone does that. I think that In pretty much everything there are no absolute truths or theories that are always correct. I might look In to the book More though since a lot of People recommmed it.
     
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  13. Houseonsea

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    E sì le donne sono ambiziose ,cercano sempre l uomo che potrebbe avere più successo nella vita , in società , forse perché è l istinto di conservazione della specie che le fa agire così ,per la felicità della futura prole e conservazione dei suoi geni .i governi e la politica dovrebbe aiutare tutti gli uomini , invece in certi paesi ormai gli uomini non hanno proprio speranza di lavoro e di futuro . Le differenze di classi sociali si fa sempre più evidente , e il successo lo prendono i più furbi e non quelli che se lo meritano veramente
     
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  14. Giuseppe

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    Some marriages does not equal ALL marriages, so clearly the intention of those involved are what set them apart. This cannot be said about prostitution since ALL prostitution is a degrading experience between two human beings.
     
  15. onceaking

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    I don't think a man should pay for everything. On a date, I'm all for splitting the bill. I think in a healthy relationship you help each other out and work together. Having said that nothing in life is free. You need to make an effort for a relationship to work. For any relationship to last, you have to put in the work.

    As for prostitution, so many people are weird about sex that's why it's considered shameful. Another reason is people are self-righteous and judgmental, before I got into porn I thought anyone who had pre-marital sex was gross. Really porn has humbled me. Another thing people say is those who do sex work are selling their bodies, the thing is anyone who works sells their body. Any work you do you have to use your body in one way for another therefore you are being paid for your body.
     
  16. Trobone

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    your brain and worldview will be healthier if you forget things written in those books.

    Women enjoy sex as much as men, it's not some competition you have to compete in 100% of the time if you're with someone who loves you.