Hi, guys, because of some issues I’ve had with my erections over the last 8 or 9 days, I am starting to wonder if I never truly recovered from PIED. First of all, I am 36 years old and tapped to porn for two decades from nearly age 14 to about 34.5. I quit porn in late 2020 and stopped masturbation in July 2021. I completed 2 hard mode streaks - 1 streak for 4.5 months and another 9 months . I took tadalafil from doses around 10 mg and occasionally a 20 mg tab but after my hard mode streaks , I discovered I could lower my dose to 5 mg. After some time, I discovered I could go as low as 2.5 mg (splitting a 5 mg tab in half or even as low as 1.25 mg) and still get a decent erection for penetration. This January I discovered by being brave that I could get off the pill entirely and still attain a decent erection for sex and have not taken anything since then . The catch ? The catch is that I must always get oral sex/touch from my woman to get hard . I do not get hard from just seeing her naked even though she is very sexy to me and kissing and other activities don’t cause me an erection . I require oral . I’m sad after nearly 2 years w/o fapping and almost 3 years w/o porn, I am still limp when getting naked with my woman . I get morning wood most mornings and have normal testosterone levels . No diabetes or high blood pressure . I work out doing cardio and strength train and eat a pretty clean diet . Is this still PIED after this long ? I am starting to believe I didn’t fully recover . Also; even though I have had plenty of sex with decent errctions since January without any pills most weeks 3 to 4 times a week, the past 8 days or so I’ve noticed for some reason my erections have been harder to attain even with oral and I’m not feeling as much or as aroused . Someone has commented the frequent sex could be causing me a hormonal imbalance , desensitized and that maybe I need a week or 2 off from sex . I thought I had seen major improvements and got myself off pills but I don’t know really how much I have recovered , if at all, from PIED. My morning wood is strong and almost always present . Please help me.
A long enough time has passed, I don’t think you have PIED anymore. I agree with the person who told you that frequent sex is causing this problem More specifically, I think it is from ejaculating too much. The male body can only take so much… you are way overdrafted… you were already overdrafted, and then you took Tadalafil, which overdrafted you even more. Your body is sending you a “red alert!” Signal. by preventing erection, your body is trying to save you from further harming yourself! I think you should immediately stop ejaculating. For the next week or two, only give your woman orgasms through oral sex or with your fingers. Do not ejaculate anymore… you are going to destroy yourself or cause a bad health effect take a break from ejaculating, and focus on getting healthy again look up eastern medicine philosophy regarding sexual intercourse and sexual release our bodies are not like women’s, we can’t have unlimited orgasms like they can, it costs us energy… too much energy
Thank you for your reply . Yes, I will be taking at least a full week off from sex for the time being . You believe I probably don’t have PIED anymore , but what can explain the fact I still don’t get aroused from normal things such as nudity , kissing , etc ? I only get aroused and an erection if my girl performs oral on me . Other guys I hear and read about they start getting hard just from the thought of sex alone or while they’re kissing etc - that seems like a complete recovery from PIED- but in my case that hasn’t happened . Do some guys just need tactile stimulation to get going ? What could be wrong ? Any ideas ?
I think a better test would be to not ejaculate for a while, and then see if you get aroused by just kissing or nudity. It also could be you have a fetish for oral sex, which could have been caused by your porn tastes? I am not sure But I think first, in order to test everything, you need to not have an ejaculation for a period of time. But yes, I would guess that PIED is no longer an issue, since its been so long, but I could be wrong...
Is it likely someone has PIED or is affected by porn if they can't get sexually aroused from thoughts alone or is that another ailment affecting being able to get aroused by sexual thoughts?
well, it is going to depend on your body, everyone is unique. Some people are more sturdy than others I’d say, that you should have absolutely zero ejaculations for a whole month. No oral sex from your girlfriend. Still give your girlfriend orgasm though, through oral sex and your hands. Make it a rule that you won’t have sex again until you get an erection from kissing and seeing nudity this way, you will heal no matter what, because you won’t have sex again until you are healed
Did you even get your libido back? I wouldn’t have sex or force anything until regaining libido first. I remember before all this the anticipation and excitement got me all horny and hard. My heart would be pounding before sex. Another is do you even feel a proper connection? I remember my connection before sex was strong which kept me hard.
Hi, Scorpio, thanks for your response . I really don’t know what is wrong . As I said in my first post, I completed 2 hard-mode streaks - 1 streak lasted 4.5 months and the second one lasted 9 months . I avoided all sexual thoughts , touching my penis except to pee and shower ; despite such long streaks , I never once felt horny and felt like I could just live without sex permanently . The only thing I noticed on my long 9 month streak is that I was occasionally having erotic dreams/sexual dreams . But I never felt this extreme sexual drive and even though I find my girl extremely desirable before sex my heart is never pumping, I’m never super excited , etc . I start getting aroused and excited once I see she is performing oral and my buddy rises to the occasion and I’m ready to penetrate I get excited then . But before sex I can lay down and everything is flaccid . However once she starts fondling , maybe talking in a naughty manner to me , and blows me , I will usually get hard . But I have never been extremely horny and crazy . There have been some times I have noticed my penis filling up when I play around with her body and occasionally I have seen a 60-70% erection without touch /oral but that is rare and I don’t see it happen frequently. It makes me wonder if I have seen those occasional signs if I am still in recovery from PIED. But bottom line I get more turned on once I am in the act, see myself getting hard , and ready to penetrate- before it’s like my body doesn’t arouse itself at all . I am thinking I am still in recovery or maybe need a libido booster /supplement. It may be missing libido explaining why I am not hard before sex but I don’t know . Some people say some men require foreplay such as oral /touch to get hard but I’m really not sure what to think . The only real progress I made was lowering the tadalafil dose to a bare minimum and I’ve been functioning for months without it so long as I am touched/orally stimulated .
Well, before the flatline hit, I was just horny from the thought of sex. During the flatline before having sex I would get horny but when me and my ex were starting to touch or kiss but it wasn’t the same. I would still get rock hard but it didn’t last like before since I would cum fast. Plus during sex there was no heat or connection between us. It felt very plain. Honestly before I wouldn’t be able describe or remember this because my cognitive issues but this is definitely a sign of my improvement.
I would say forcing it just seems pointless. Don’t give it a time frame. Unfortunately this is going to take time. You need your libido to kick in 1st. I thought having sex would help me rewire but it doesn’t seem to work like that for everyone. Plus, let me ask you this, how are your withdrawal symptoms? Are you still deal with Anhedonia?
Sorry I keep forgetting stuff, I don’t recommend Ed drugs. It can also be effecting you neurologically. I never used Ed drugs but still managed to get hard. Give it time, it sucks I know. You got this bro. I’m on your side. Your streaks seem to be good but I think you need more time. Your body will give you the green light.
Hey, Scorpio, thanks for the support . I was on tadalafil previously and when first got into my relationship with my girl I was on 10 mg and occasionally would pop a 20. After the first streak of hard mode, I found I could drop to 10 mg and do ok with 5 mg . After my second streak of 9 months, I discovered I was actually alright with splitting the 5 mg tabs and taking a bare minimum of 2.5 mg and with stimulation I’d get hard . So by January of this year I decided to experiment and go without the pills . The process worked and I haven’t taken any medicine, not even a low dose, since January . And since January my girl and I have been having sex 3-4 times a week . She has commented I am getting hard with her oral or touch and faster than before . I had also been noticing that and sometimes even with no oral if she would lightly play with my buddy I’d start getting hard . This has been the case since January . Then out of no where around 10 days ago I stopped getting fully hard . It was taking me a while to get going and sometimes I’d start getting hard /rising only for it to come down again . Multiple attempts on 2 or 3 occasions and I’ve been dealing with that . Came out of no where after months of great sex . Could it be fatigue ? Maybe the frequent 3-4 times a week of sex for months and my penis/overall body are depleted and tired ? I don’t know . I even had someone tell me I’ve had so much sex with my woman that I maybe a little bored and to cut it out for a week or two lol. Otherwise why would I take a giant leap backwards after I’ve made progress ? Now the problem is after the first incident where I wasn’t going up , I was then nervous the other times as well and harder to relax .
I think if you aren’t fully recovered then you’re just taxing your dopamine system and it’s just going down from there. I completely understand that you gotta handle things with your girl but this process is difficult. When I was having sex my withdrawal symptoms came back or when I pmod. The pills are just a bandage so you gotta naturally fix this by giving it time.
It’s just nuts I stopped masturbating almost 2 years ago and quit the porn in late 2020. This takes a long time to fully recover in some cases . But many people would probably tell me 20 years of porn/masturbation is a hell of a lot compared to how long I’ve been without these things . I am going to give it at least a week or maybe 10 days of rest from sex to give my system a rest . If I see I am in the same boat for any reason, I will make an appointment with a urologist just to rule out any other problems even though the fact I get nocturnal erections is usually a sign that physically nothing is wrong . What would you say in the mean time about supplementing with L-arginine/citrulline as a natural substance for better erectile quality ?
I have felt mentally just fine but with all the issues I’ve been experiencing in the last 2 weeks with my erections, I am planning to go see a urologist for the first time . I took 5 days off from any sex with my wife and yesterday we tried once again beginning with oral and I ejaculated but my erection was not 100%. Today we tried again and I couldn’t finish at all - once again my penis would start going up half-way, sometimes maybe 70% which was just ok to penetrate but then it would start going down yet again . This was not happening prior to 2 weeks ago . I’d go up relatively quickly and I was not using any pills . Now it seems like suddenly I have taken huge steps backward almost starting at square 1 to the point I will see a urologist to rule out any problems. I can’t believe after nearly 2 years without masturbating and almost 3 years without porn , I suddenly have this problem when I was doing ok . I don’t even know if it’s possible that maybe I am in a post-sexual flatline after months of having sex 3-4 times a week . This is scary for sure .
Like I have the opportunity to have sex but I don’t have libido. My symptoms have improved for sure but I just think things will get better in time. I ain’t gonna force sex until I get my libido back. Yeah maybe get checked and rule things out. Porn and masterbation isn’t the only thing you gotta stop sex too, we’ll orgasms.
Hey, cyberpunk, thanks for your reply . I am on this site on and off and have not read your response , but I am going to read and respond . Thanks man .
