Sex with real women when nofap

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Hey all,

    Currently on my 23-24th day or so.

    Yesterday I went out with a girl, had dinner and some wine, things got hot and heavy ended up having sex, which was the bomb (I came a lot).
    Anyways, I drove her back home went to bed at 3:30 AM. Woke up today feeling like shittttt.

    My questions are:

    - is it better to abstain from sex when doing nofap?
    - does anyone else get depressed the day after sex?

    Please anyone, who experienced this before, not just opinions.

    Cheers
     
  2. Jonny123

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    I suppose one very important element to think about is who the sex was with. I think coming can be a downer but this can be counteracted by the quality of the actual relationship and whether it is an expression of love or just personal desire.
     
  3. daydream_nation

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    Yeah I think there must be something else going on here that makes you feel bad about having sex with this person...?

    Personally I think sex with a real person in a loving relationship is something healthy to be strived for.
     
  4. Absolutely agree with the others.

    I have experienced that feeling in the past as well. People may disagree with this, but sex is actually best experienced with your soul mate. That's who it is supposed to be with. Sex is not just a physical exchange, but it is a soul based exchange even more importantly. It is a soul based experience. The exchange of energy with that person. The energy exchanged with the person you had sex with was probably some dark energy, because it's not your soul mate.

    You can have sex with many people, but it will never be as powerful as it could be with your true soul mate. Remember, we are souls at our true essence and core, not mere body. Sex is best experienced as a means through the soul.

    Sex feels different with different people for a reason, all due to the different soul based emotions going on at the soul level during the sexual act.
     
  5. Hmm, I get what you guys are saying, thanks a lot for the replies.

    It's hard to abstain completely from everything, especially when you have attractive women around you. Even though they're not your soulmate, you still have a desire for them. Plus I am going through the depression associated with the withdrawal so I suppose this just made it worse.
     
  6. In the initial stages, but once we get back to default, it wont be a problem. Once the emotional issues are addressed it wont seem so much like a chore.

    Same answer I gave to your quote above is the same answer I'd give for this quote as well. Humans can reach higher states of consciousness where such things will not bother us any more. Our desire to mate with someone is designed for the union of your our soul mate only, not for anyone else. Once we've healed from all emotional injuries, the perfect blue print for mankind becomes clearer. While certain emotional injuries are at play, it's difficult to see clearly what is going on.
     
  7. Brasileiro

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    I had sex yesterday too, but i don't feel bad at all. In fact, i feel surprisingly normal. AllRageBackHome has a good point. Maybe the problem is in the person, like if it was a "pointless sex". Maybe if you guys were in love, you'd feel a lot better... I don't think it's good to abstaim from sex though. It's our nature, we literally are programmed to fuck. How would you feel if you couldn't have sex, because of NoFap?
     
  8. Brasileiro

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    AllTheRageBackHome, it is really hard to achieve this "higher level of consciousness". Only a few people in history could achieve this level. I mean, this would be fucking awesome, but how to do it?
     
  9. @Brasileiro how long are you in your nofap journey?

    @AlltheRageBackHome thanks for the insight, but I tend to look at it more simple, just like any other animals mate in the jungle, so do we. Even after you meet your soulmate you still have urges for other women, so my question is:

    - to reach a state of high concentration, high motivation and energy, should I abstain from everything and for how long? (that implies having sex with super hot women)
     
  10. Brasileiro

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    Oh, i have been trying to stop for many years.. But I've found the NoFap community in 2015. Now it's my third day clean, i think... The new year's eve was a bummer :/
     
  11. @Brasileiro sorry to hear that man. I bet living in Brasil with all those super hot women around it's hard to abstain. I am in Montreal and we have 40 cm of snow, so no desire for me lol.
     
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  12. It is more than possible, and it starts with really owning and dealing with our emotions. The only thing is stopping us is believing that it's not possible and that we as humans are built a certain way. We just simply degraded over time. We were not built to lust after everything we see. Those are symptoms of a lower nature. We can transition out of that. If you're honest with yourself, you'll find that there are many emotions as to why lust occurs within us in the first place. Sometimes those are emotions such as loneliness or feeling like we're going to be alone forever and that we wont find the kind of relationship we're looking for. The key is, is to feel that sadness and go into it. Then you can release it.

    This only depends on a man's emotional condition. Just the same way it's unloving to feel hate towards others and you can heal from it, the same way it's unloving to sexually project at someone other than your soul mate, and this can also be healed as well.

    There are ways that you can attract your soul mate into your life. It starts by healing any emotional injuries you have towards the opposite gender, and obviously if you're homosexual, it would be towards the same gender. The more whole you become emotionally, the more naturally your soul mate is going to be drawn into your life, and you'll know who it is when you see them. You don't need to date anyone else. The choice is up to you as to who you date, but I guarantee you, it will never be as pleasurable as it will be with your soul mate. Your soul mate will understand you like no one else, and you'll have a connection with them like you've never experienced with another human before.
     
  13. Brasileiro

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    @AlltheRageBackHome i like the philosophy of buddhism and all this that you are talking about, but i can't understand how could we negate our biological nature hoping that this would make us happy. Why can't we be happy having sex? I understand that search brings suffer (according to Krishnamurti) but not always we search, sometimes it just happens to appear hahaha... If it's our nature to reproduct, why should i say "no"? I am just asking this trying to understand, don't need to answer if you don't want...

    @AlexMtl87 yeah! Most girls here are amazingly pretty... But i kinda get used to it...
     
  14. I would love to answer.

    By the way, this is not Buddhism :p
    These are just the secrets of the universe that were lost thousands of years ago.

    Back in the day, the Egyptians, and others who were emotionally and mentally smarter than us knew it was normal to come away from lust and just unite with their soul mate. This was normal. All that's happened is that we have degraded in our soul condition over time and have become worse, to be frank.

    Ejaculation and orgasm are different. You don't need to ejaculate to have an orgasm. I've had orgasms without ejaculation. The only time you really need to ejaculate is if you want to have a baby.

    The more we refrain from sexually objectifying women in our heads, the more we'll start to see other women as our sisters and will be attracted to our soul mate only. That is the state we were supposed to be in, not this fragmented state of confusion, being attracted to everyone we see. Discovering true love does not work that way. This is the reason why people end up in heartbreak, people taking 10 years to heal from relationships. Why? Because people are not meeting their soul mates. Things would be easier this way, but we have so many unhealed emotions which prevents us from meeting our soul mate. When we heal, it wont be so difficult.

    The pleasures I feel while retaining the semen are amazing, all sorts of pleasures going on in my brain, because I know how to circulate the sexual energy. You don't need sex to be happy. There are other unknown pleasures waiting for people to discover.
     
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  15. what @Brasileiro said, that is my question as well.

    Often times, we see celebrities that reach superstardom (Mase - a rapper in the late 90s) and then leave that world for inner peace (religion, meditation, etc), but also there are others that like to have as many female partners as possible and they thrive off it (womanizers like Charlie Sheen or Warren Beatty).

    So it's not a general rule for everyone with the soulmate
     
  16. MuzztecAFC

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    What I have found if you go PMO free, when you have sex you should not ejaculate, just take your time, have sex and surf close to say 7-8 out of 10 if 10 is the point where you will cum, then remove and go do oral or fingering till you are back down to say a 5 then continue, I did this the last time I had sex, I had more energy and felt awesome the next day. Did get some urges to watch porn but because I didn't ejaculate I found it easy to ignore them.

    If you want to go further read up on tantra, cycle your energy, there are a few practices I use with breath where I don't remove my penis, but slow down, or stop for a few seconds then resume sex.
    Also look up the multi orgasmic man, that is a great read with plenty of info
     
  17. @MuzztecAFC so you don't come anymore when you have sex?
     
  18. Not sure what you mean here..

    Also, Warren Beatty has settled down and has been married for a while. Now that Charlie Sheen has HIV, he's starting to see things a bit more clearly now.
     
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  19. MuzztecAFC

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    The last 3 times I have had sex with 3 different girls, I didn't cum, but I fucked them for a good 1-2 hours
    I still have pre mature ejaculation, went from having insertion then cumming, to now, I feel a very strong urge, so I half insert, or slowly put in and stop. Then do energy cycling breaths, deep box breaths and cobra breath if needed, then I slowly thrust in and out shallow and slow then increase as I relax and breath and move my energy up from my balls up my spine into my heart head and breathing out into the girl I am with.
    I start slow for the first 20-30 mins, then after than I have much better control, only slowing down when I get close to orgasm, or taking a break when I run out of stamina, but usually the girl gets sore, or has had so many more orgasms with my energy behind them that she can't deal with them and roll up in the fetal position shaking and telling me how amazing I am.

    To me this feels better than my old 1-5 mins of sex, cum roll over and sleep model, also girls then seem to beg to come back unless they are impatient in the initial stages of sex and just want it hard and fast straight away but for them I just tell them to take it easy and make them wait, saying me going slow is a tease or I just tell them I will not see them again, a girl kind of jumped on me and went hard and fast, made me cum quick when I didn't want to cum, so I never called her back as she disrespected me when I told her no and stop
     
  20. Yugae

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    @MuzztecAFC : Your experiences are useful to us, really. Tantric or karezza sex are very interesting, especially during rebooting. I'll just ask if you can make your stories less detailed and less explicit, because I believe they can be very triggering for people in a weak state :)
     
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