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Something to strive for in life other than sex/porn

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by louie11, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. louie11

    louie11 Fapstronaut

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    Whenever i think about what i can achieve from doing nofap (or pretty much anything else in life) i find that the end goal is always sex related. A few examples:

    1. I can get more motivated to work out so that i can get more attractive and in turn get hotter women.

    2. I can become better with women so that i can take more of them home and have sex.

    3. I can focus on my career so that i can get a lot of money to buy sex related things like lingerie for my gf (or even a boob job!).

    My question is: Is this an effect of my addiction? And will my brain ever rewire in a way that sex won't be at the end of every argument for doing something? Are we (male) humans just wired that way in the first place?

    I know, that the goal of nofap is often REAL sex with REAL women but that is still about sex! What else could be something meaningful to strive for in life?

    I have only reached a two week streak so i'm curious if you have experienced some changes in what motivates you in life and what makes it meaningful.
     
  2. I'm also trying not to be a sexual person so I understand what you are saying.

    I'm still looking for something meaningful in my life as well other than thinking about sex. I now want to be a lifelong virgin because PMO really f'ed me up when it comes to sex and women but yeah I'm still looking for something meaningful.
     
  3. mcrcvrng

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    Well guys have you considered that "sexual" attraction can be intellectual? Maybe you have more energy and concentration to develop yourself mentally, and that will attract a whole other kind of women. Maybe sex is involved but there may be more, it could be the whole person.

    I mean given a choice, would you rather be with a woman that's dumb and hot or smart and hot? Would you rather be wanted by the dumb one or the smart one?
     
  4. I don't understand what you're asking.
     
  5. mcrcvrng

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    Wouldn't a woman that is both smart and attractive be more interesting than one that is only physically attractive? And the same goes for you - so if you don't fap as much, which seems to help with concentration and so you can develop your mind, you can be smarter and attract women who are also smarter.
     
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  6. Yeah I guess so.

    But I want to be a virgin forever because sex to me is a distraction.

    Life is better, my mind is more open when I don't think about sex and PMO.
     
  7. mcrcvrng

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    That's certainly one way to go, I was thinking of the OP actually.
     
  8. Its not that there is only sexual benefit when you quit pmo, there are lots of other effects, in general when you are addicted to it most of the time you are focused on that thing only, once you quit you can focus on your professional life, academic life, etc. why just considering the sexual life..
    Its all about pmo which direct effect your brain, brain in involved in every part of life...
    May be the primary benefits are related to sexual life but you can't ignore all other secondary and tertiary effect of quitting porn....
    Everyone here is fighting with pmo not just because they want to sexually active, someone is lonely, someone is in depression, someone's performance is academics is extreme low, someone's is not able to complete college degree and so on there are many stories..read them you will find what they are fighting for...every fight is not about sex and women..the hardest battle is for ourselves with ourselves within ourselves where looser and winner both are you only..........
     
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  9. louie11

    louie11 Fapstronaut

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    That is an interesting solution! So i'm curious to what you think could make your life meaningful then, if not women. Success? Or do you have a goal that you strive for, that gives you meaning in life? I cannot see beyond the point where the goal of living life is to be with a beautiful woman. I do get some joy out of doing good things, so it could be meaningful for me to live a life where a make a change for others. But i still feel like i would be completely dissatisfied with my life, if i hadn't had sex/a relationship with beautiful women.

    And do you then want a non-sexual relationship / life partnership?

    My interpretation of your comment is, that you find that relationships can be more meaningful when based on other traits than physical attractiveness. To answer your question:

    Yes, definitely! Maybe not smarter than the ordinary, but a woman who is curious about life and thoughtful of others. Those are traits i strive for personally and that i find attractive in women. I do enjoy a relationship where we can enjoy talking about life, go traveling and in general sharing a lot more than just sex. So i guess my question is: Could it be, that addiction to PMO is making it seem like physical attractiveness is more important than those things? Do 'normal' people get a sense of fulfilment just from having a girlfriend whom they enjoy spending time with and admire in a non physical way?
     
  10. louie11

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    I'm very aware of the tertiary effects. My lack of motivation and willpower and my inability to concentrate are my main reasons for quitting. What i'm curious about is if things like the ones you mention (performing well academically, getting a college degree, overcoming loneliness by getting new friends) will start to seem more fulfilling and meaningful if i abstain from PMO and let my brain rewire? And if it will actually become something i strive to achieve instead of just something i do because, well, that's what people expect of me.
     
  11. douggie1962

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    Get a life - Yes! Music, Arts, hobbies, books, Meet up groups, yoga, tai chi, community outreach, learning languages, dancing, sports, travel. Life has so many things to offer, so go for it. Sex is no great defining activity - dogs can hump in the street, so what. Life is more than things going in and out of holes. Challenge yourself to do something new that involves interacting with people at least once a week.

    Be Strong Brothers.
     
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  12. It's just for me, sex has been a distraction through thinking about it over and over (I have ocd) and PMO really f'ed me up as well.

    When I quit pmo, obviously it is easier not to think about it. Life is just easier for me when I don't think about sex so that is why I want to be a virgin for life (even though there is a social stigma attached to it).
    So I guess not. I don't want any relationship or partner at all.
     
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  13. louie11

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    I get what you are saying, because when in bed with a woman, it is easy to start imaging or imitating porn. I have found though, that there is another side of sex that doesn't feel the same as porn. I experience it when i really focus on being aware of all my senses instead of just the visual stimulation. And of course it is easier to get this feeling when you are with someone you really care about and trust.

    Another thing is that when i have had sex i feel the chaser effect the day after, because my brain is addicted to orgasm. So in that way sex is a kind of distraction, but i believe that if i can rewire my brain from this addiction the effect will not be as strong.

    To me, a relationship is one of the main pillars of a happy life, but it might be different for you. My hope for you is that some day you will find that you brain has recovered, to an extend that you can actually have a relationship without that making your brain distracted by sex all the time. I do believe that is possible, and that you are worthy of that even though you are f'ed up right now as you say. But best of luck with your mission of virginity, it is a very ambitious one! I respect that.
     
  14. ComeAgain?

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    We all have a gap inside of us. Some people fill it with money. Some people fill it with fast cars or a bottle of vodka. We tell ourselves that if I just get from A to B then I will finally be "happy".

    Well, we get to point B (better car/boob job) and we realize we just need to get to point C. It's a cycle.

    I used to be the same way with my life. I would lie to myself and just say wow if I had that, then I would really be happy. It's a vicious way to live and it breeds anxiety and unrealistic and unhealthy expectations.

    I'm not saying I'm better than you. I still struggle with this and I think a lot of us do. If I could give you some advice I would say find something that is bigger than yourself. Something bigger than more money or a better body. These things really are fleeting.

    For me it was finding God and growing a relationship with Him. It doesn't have to be a religious thing though.

    Pick up a hobby. Something where you can see measurable growth. Keep trying new things until you find what sticks. I'm 24 and eventually found out (last month) that I love wood carving. Instead of focusing on my addictions I'm starting to focus on wood carving. It may seem silly but it really does help.

    Last thing I can say is enjoy the little things. Life is short. Make yourself a cup of warm tea and savor it. Step outside and take a deep breath. Look at the beauty of nature.

    When we find things that are bigger than ourselves we tend to see just how silly some of our pursuits are. You are strong and you can do this. Don't give up. Developing yourself is a journey and not a destination.

    Hope this helps.

    -CA
     
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  15. louie11

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    Thanks, that's good advice. As an atheist i have had a hard time with this, but i have started looking for some volunteer work in my area to help refugees.

    Also, i have started a yoga class a while ago, and i'm really beginning to enjoy it. All my life i have been struggling to find something that i wold find interesting for more than a month. But i'm thinking this yoga might just be the thing.
     

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