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30 days in, benefits? :/

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by BigDreamer, Jul 19, 2014.

  1. BigDreamer

    BigDreamer Fapstronaut

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    30 days in, I see no change

    It’s been 30 days since I’ve started nofap and I had no choice but to choose the hard mode because I am single.
    My reasons for starting Nofap were:
    1. I wanted to cut back the time wasted searching for and watching porn videos
    2. I wanted to see if I’d have more physical energy
    3. To see if I would gain weight at a faster rate
    4. To see if I’d have more focus to complete certain tasks
    5. To see if my PE problem would vanish or be reduced somewhat during actual intercourse

    After considering the above reasons and reading about various benefits of Nofap and what other people experienced. I have come to the conclusion that my life hasn’t really changed much in these 30 days.
    Let me address what I’ve experienced based on the 5 reasons I listed. First off yes, I have cut down on watching porn videos or looking at sexual photos of any sort, well mostly except for an accumulated period of about an hour over three days.
    When it comes to physical energy I haven’t really experienced a massive change, just a one night/morning burst due to me having a massive erection and some pain in my testicles (blue balls) around 1 a.m. in the morning. This stemmed from me being out earlier flirting with girls, getting home and falling asleep then waking up with the aforementioned erection that I had to do some intense workouts to burn the energy.
    As for a better focus (I should add motivation to that) my tasks being writing and creating music. I haven’t really had much focus when doing so nor motivation to do so, even if I come up with great ideas I get bored and frustrated before I can complete a song or instrumental. This is what used to happen before Nofap and it hasn’t changed still, though I used to blame it on fapping because I started to fap so regularly that I got tiny headaches. The only difference now is I don’t get those headaches after my 3rd ejaculation in one day because I haven’t been ejaculating.
    **(on the matter of ejaculation) Before nofap I used to do my own little breaks from masturbation during which I always got wet dreams, but since I stated nofap I haven’t got any yet.
    On the last 2 points of weight gain and my premature ejaculation problem, I can’t really state if there are any changes since I haven’t been on a scale before nofap or since I started and since I’m single I haven’t had sex in the thirty days to test if any changes in my PE have occurred.
    This is the last thing addressing the posts people make that they have become more sociable since beginning nofap. I also haven’t really seen much change in this aspect except for spending a little more time with some old friends in an attempt to distract myself from thinking about woman, relationships and anything sexual, but that’s hard because it’s regular guy talk.
    Some might say that I could call that a benefit but I’d differ. I was never really social, I was shy and all that before I discovered masturbation at age 12 (though that is very young) and I’m still somewhat shy now. Also I never liked being around people, even friends, for long periods of time, and that still reigns true to this day. Though I used to play sports, dance and all kinds of other stuff outside with the other kids, I used to always leave them to go inside to watch cartoons, discovery channel and play video games. When I hit the age 15 I started to feel more comfortable being alone than with people though I still used to go out from time to time. To wrap up this long post, I’m just saying my social life hasn’t changed either. Well maybe porn and masturbation weren’t what made me less social but I read that I might experience a bigger urge to socialize but the only person I want to be around is my girlfriend but I have none now and exs don’t count. So im let feeling really depressed and lonely because friends can’t fill that gap, I actually never experienced the feeling of missing someone until going 30 days of no ejaculation whatsoever.
    P.s. I’m sorry I went off at the last part, this might be my last post, I might relapse… bye now
     
  2. AgnosticBuddha

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    Keep going man, it's really hard, you plateau and stuff but you gotta hit that 90 days. You're doing good
     
  3. Captain B

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    Hmmm... Maybe you simply are the lone-wolf type. The question is: are you ok with that or do you want to change it? I'm not saying there's anything bad with prefering to be by yourself if that is what makes you happy in the long run. But if you don't want to be like that, you will have to act.

    To me it sounds a little as if you were hoping that NoFap would do all the work for you and just by staying away from PMO you would magically become more social, more in shape and more focused. The thing is though, changing yourself is still hard work, NoFap is just a way to facilitate it. I'm over 90 days now and I still have trouble concentrating. I used to indulge in these hour long distractions when I actually had to get work done but now I catch myself much faster. I think this comes from NoFap because the act of catching myself thinking about sex / fapping is very similar and I sure got a lot of practice with that over the past 3 months. Now this practice is spilling over to catching myself being lazy. It's all about teaching yourself self-control.

    As for your goal of having more energy: you won't feel this if you never let it out. I was sick for the past 2 weeks and didn't go to the gym. I felt very down and weak in general and starting thinking "where did all the energy go I used to have during the past 3 months?". Then I pulled myself up and went to the gym again and BAM it was all back! I guess I just don't notice it as long as I'm only hanging out on the couch.
     
  4. BigDreamer

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    Thank you both for your replies and for actually reading this long post.
    Captain B, I see where your are coming from, i might have put all the cards on nofap, but I wasn't hoping nofap would make me more social or more in shape but i was hoping it would help me with my focus. I've had the social experiences already even though I'm just 23 between the ages 16 and 21 I did alot (partying underaged driking, sex etc) but I always felt more comfortable when I was home alone as i would write songs produce instrumentals do various forms of design. Before I came across nofap, i went on a PMO binge whic resulted in headaches that kept me from focusing so now that they are gone I hoped my focus would have returned. I'm now guessing I need something new to motivate me.

    I've always been socially awkward even when i'm out partying but being good at so many other things like dance, I always had females pursue me most of the times I did little work, but now I'm single and don't go out anymore, the company of a woman is all i need, friends don't fill that gap.

    As for being in shape, for me to workout is pointless as i see it, because I'm too skinny to build muscle. I heard that semen takes protein from the brain and other muscles so i hoping not ejaculating would spur some weight gain then I'd start working out.

    I'll see how far beyond the 30 days I can go
     
  5. suyash_4376

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    Dude I read you loud and clear. You see, I myself am in the same situation. You dont do nofap for focus. You do it to cut out masturbation and porn. You read self help books to improve social skills. Focus is a muscle. You develop it by meditation. You workout to gain energy.

    Nofap is not the solution to our life. You yourself have to work on your skills. You have to control your procrastination by understanding reasons for it. Procrastination is not being lazy. Its being afraid of failure, afraid of being judged or sometimes even fear of success. Read "the now habit" by neil fiore and you will understand what I am trying to say. Nofap is not a magic pill. Its just you controlling yourself in one domain. It gives you confidence that you can control yourself in another domains.

    Read this too "http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com/index.php?topic=15558.0"

    If you are much of a miser like me, here is the link to "the now habit"
    "http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/sahilwhiteday/the-now-habit-by-neil-a-fiore-full-book-free
     
  6. BTW

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    hey Big Dreamer, just to comment on the working out part of your post, I disagree that for you to workout is pointless. I'm a skinny guy like you, never able to gain weight (either fat or muscle). But you should work out. First, it will help you with avoiding PMO. Second, if you are looking for more energy, vigorous physical working out will do wonders. I would recommend lifting weights (go heavy, but don't sacrifice form) and avoid too much cardio.

    Honestly, the amount of protein in semen is very small. Not enough to impact your weight gain goals. What I do believe is that P consumption ultimately decreases testosterone (some conflicting info on the web about this, but I believe it does harm T levels). Testosterone has a huge impact on your ability to gain muscle. So if you haven't been working out for the past 30 days since you stopped PMO, you should give it a try because you may see better results. Of course, increasing T is a two edged sword, it will help you gain muscle but also increases your libido, which can be rough when trying to stop PMO.

    If you ever want to talk about muscle building for hard gainers, let me know.
     
  7. Hotshot

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    Hey BigDreamer, BTW. I lift weights and I am currently 193 lbs. I can tell you that if you are not gaining weight, you are quite literally not eating enough food guys. The math is simple. It's Calories in VS. Calories out. If you are both 150 lbs for instance -

    150 lbs say you workout 5x a week 1 hour a day + Jog 3 times a week for 1 hour a day. You are going to burn about 4500 calories a week in exercise alone. Your bodies still have "X" amount of calories to maintain themselves just by living from random functions like breathing, digesting ect. Let's say that's 2,000 calories a day for simplicity. This means that in order to simply "maintain" that 150 lbs, you need to eat 14,000 calories [2,000 calories a day] PLUS 4,500 [divided out by 7 days = 643 calories per day].

    So for you to maintain that 150 lbs, you need to eat 2,642 calories every single day whether you lift + do cardio or not. That is simply to MAINTAIN your body weight. If your goal is to gain 2 lbs a week you need to eat MORE than your "maintenance" calories which in this case is 2,643 calories per day, by 350 calories. For easy numbers sake lets call it a simple 3,000 calories per day.

    I am willing to bet at 150 lbs you will struggle to eat 3,000 calories per day. Even if you eat "junk" food you will still struggle. Don't forget this is just a starting point. You very well could need MORE calories if your metabolism is truly higher. That number jumps easily to 3,500 if you need 2,500 + your expended calories from lifting + cardio.

    So - if you want to gain weight, and you aren't, it IS because you are not eating enough. I can promise you that. Unless you are on drugs you WILL gain weight if you eat enough. There is no exception to this rule.
     
  8. Hotshot

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    Bigdreamer, you are misguided to think that the amount of protein [if any] withdrawn in semen is causing your lack of weight gaining. Also there is no such thing as "too skinny to gain muscle." Start pounding the food and lift weights. you will gain muscle [and fat because you literally cannot gain one without the other].
     
  9. BigDreamer

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    Thank you once again for replying.

    I read all your posts, I haven't checked the links out yet though.
    All your points about weight might be valid I know for a fact that the calorie intake is, but still I won't be working out anytime soon.

    I'm just going to try to crawl through the rest of the days, I'm currently on 32 days and 11 hours at the time of this post. Come the end of the 90 period and even beyond, I'll still be my skinny loner self, I just hope I'll be a little more successful. One of you mentioned my lack of focus might be to fear of success or failure. The latter might be true since I have failed in everything I've ever done that might just be the reason I lack motivation and focus. Oh well


    (I wish i stay in the flatline period forever)
     
  10. Madrileño

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    NoFap is neither the magic wand nor the silver bullet - neither of these exist. It is a strategy to allow us to be more free to do what we want and be who we are not distorted by pornography addiction which hijacks the brain and makes us live our lives according to someone else's agenda - the pornographers who push this stuff. Of course nature has made sex super interesting and appealing but it was never meant to be available 24/7 with an unlimited number of incredible girls doing exactly what you want with no effort or commitment on your part. Sex (as we are meant to experience it) involves another human being and hence involves relationship, communication, negotiation and understanding. This takes more effort and isn't so instantly pleasing - but is much better for our psyche and social functioning in the long run. So having got pmo out of the picture we can start actualising who we are or who we want to be. This involves a measure of self knowledge and both living with the reality of our personalities and striving to evolve to who we aspire to be. I have found the Myres Briggs test incredibly helpful in understanding myself. There are heaps of online versions but here is one though maybe not even the best...

    http://www.freepersonalitytest.info/index.php

    Myers Briggs is a complex and comprehensive way of understanding yourself with impressive real world authentication. Once you understand yourself you can start living with that and maximising your powers. Some people are very social, others less so. Quiting pmo won't necessarily change that but it should unmask your real personality and allow you to be who you are and adjust both behaviour and expectations to your unique and special personality. Understanding yourself means living with some limitations but also knowing where you can make changes to achieve what you want. For example people with a strong tendency to introversion need to know that its ok to prefer your own company a lot of the time but also know the benefits of that. See Susan Cain's excellent Ted Talk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0KYU2j0TM4

    So know yourself, be yourself, learn to love yourself and don't let pmo get in the way and screw you up!

    Good luck to the real you!
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2014
  11. BigDreamer

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    This will be my final thank you to all of you for reading and replying to my post.

    Madrileño, I did the personality test and some of the things in the results were correct some were the exact opposite. I also checked out the video on introverts and it was quite interesting.

    On the matter of benefits, all the things I read about that people said they experience while on nofap, i think they might have skipped me. Since starting nofap I've been more depressed,sad,angry and less social. No matter how I try to focus on what I should I can't. Maybe I just need some more motivation to do so.

    To end I'll still try to abstain from PMO for as long as possible I'll only come back here to reset my counter if I relapse or on day 60. It will be easy to abstain from sex with a partner since I have none and I'm sure I won't have one by the end of the 90 period.

    I'll try to reach the 90 days but I'm not sure what I'll gain at that time and what I'll do about my sexual frustration
     

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