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If you want to say farewell to porn, this is the only SOLUTION.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Veronico, Aug 18, 2017.

  1. Veronico

    Veronico Fapstronaut

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    To abstain from porn forever, you don't need to run away from it or from any sexual triggers. You have to face the triggers!

    To say farewell to PMO, you have to return to your natural state. Human beings were not supposed to be sexually attracted every damn time they see a girl, neither they were supposed to fap everyday to a fucking screen. That's what this hyper-sexually society caused with the creation of the industry of pornography and with the objectifying of women.

    Since you were a kid, you've been subjected to sexual triggers every damn time. I for example started with feet, I was attracted to women feet at 6 years old, then at 13 years old I started watching porn and I stopped at 19 years old. I'm out of the sexual bubble created by society. I'm free, not watching that bullshit anymore and I have a healhty erection plus random erections during the day. I can also have an erection by simply thinking about sexual scenarios. I am in control of my own libido and can control my erection.

    What I did? Well, I started with NoFap but later I realised that it is not enough. You don't have to run from anything sexual, until you relapse, NO. You have to face your temptations. Yes, I said face them.

    To rewind your brain from all the hornyness you get when seeing a pretty girl, you have to get back to your natural way of seeing people, whic is looking at reality for what it is without any distracting illusional filters.

    Realizing what is triggering you. What attracts you to them? Is it the butt, the curves? Breasts? Whatever it is, you have to realise that they are just butts, curves, breasts. We have butts right? Well females have butts too. And you know what butts are for? They have the function of expelling the shit that we produce in our body, whic is physiological and necessary for our body to work well. Yes, that smelly nasty shit comes from the butts guys, the butts. Females just have a bigger rounder butt than males, so why are we attracted to a place where they sit on the toilet and shit?

    There's not objective reason behind it. It's just how evolution is made. That particular shape attracts the male sex. But let's get to what we were saying, they are butts right? Yes, butts. You just have to see them as butts. See them as to what they are. You don't have to be attracted to it by default. You can ON your attraction to it or OFF it. Your mind is your remote control.

    What about breasts? They are also a necessary part of the females, that's where the baby naturally get milk from. So why are you attracted to it? They are just breasts. How is the female going to feed the baby? There again, it is their shape and also because the male sex has to be attracted to female else there would not be procreation. But also there, you can control your attraction to it. Either see them as breasts or some sexy breasts. See them as what they are or when you and your girl are on bed, then the party can start and y'all can have sex. You see? You are the one who decides how to see things. You can ON and OFF your libido.

    You need to realise that we are organic bodies, we are animals controlled by minds. Look at yourself in the mirror. Did your body ask to be dressed like that? No. Your mind decided that. Same as everyone. Our bodies are controlled by our minds. We are all like individuals inside our brain that control each a specific organic cyborgs.

    Next step is watching a sexual video: Train your libido by watching sexual videos. Keep blocking your erection with your willpower and tell yourself that "I won't be attracted to these human beings having sex, organic bodies having sex, people having sex - I will be the ONE who decides wether to be attracted or NOT"! Keep training until you see the world to what it is. Remove the illusion off your eyes. See people as to what they are. See women as to what they are. When your libido is mastered, your brain won't ask anymore for porn videos.

    It's been months and I don't have any urges to watch porn anymore. It's a big waste of time because I could do productive stuff instead of watching that garbage.
     
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  2. Skadoosh

    Skadoosh Guest

    No offense, but it's a bit silly saying that anyone that doesn't do what you did isn't "alpha." I congratulate you on your progress and what worked for you, but I think you can see how your post comes off as a bit arrogant. I'm glad you've arrived at a theory based on your own personal experience and journey, but not everyone is wired the same way ... and not everyone will succeed doing the same things. That's just not how human beings. But again ... grats on your progress.
     
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  3. Veronico

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    I'm mad that people are so damn weak that they can't resist the beauty of a woman. They need to appreciate the beauty not masturbate to it, damn it. That's why I said they are weak. You need willpower. Don't always cry about I'm addicted, I'm addicted. I was watching porn regularly every evening and look at me, I don't even have the urges to watch that shit anymore. In the first 4 days I already didn't have any urges. Women are NOT sexual objects, start seeing them as what they are. You can ON and OFF your libido, it is possible. I can do it and you can do it too.
     
  4. Skadoosh

    Skadoosh Guest

    Just because someone isn't like you or doesn't do things the way you do doesn't make them weak. And if something like that makes you "mad" ... there is some underlying insecurity going on. Human beings are far too complex and have come from too many places and experiences to be categorized in one way. And judging them while lacking the knowledge of where people have come from and why they are the way they are is also not okay.

    Also, I wasn't whining. What you just described is called a straw man. It serves no purpose whatsoever in a logical conversation. Just because something worked your way doesn't mean it will work for someone else. I again applaud you for your accomplishment. But ... you're looking at people through a keyhole. Don't be so close-minded ... especially when it comes to addiction, anxiety, and whatever else the reason is that brought people here. You're not a veteran psychologist, so please don't presume to understand the battles people are going through on here.
     
  5. Well, we should not generalize as each one is different.
    People may weak but they'll find their way eventually so let them be alone & fight by themselves.
    It's good that you're concerned about them but it's their journey & they'll become strong after fighting this battle.
    Their life & your life isn't same dude so instead of saying weak people, you should help them to motivate & find their strength.
    Peace.


    Well, you're strong & that's good for you.
    Congrats for your achievement bud!
     
  6. Veronico

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    What? Underlying insecurity because I'm mad at the weakness of people. I just wish that people would be strong and not crybabies, that's it.

    Listen. Watching porn is for weak men. I was a weak man as well for fapping to a fucking screen. You need to tell yourself that you must change. If you are too soft with yourself you are not going anywhere. So step up and face your temptations and triggers. Destroy the illusion that does not make you see women for what they are. Destroy the filter that makes you see women as sexual objects. Get away from the toxic sexual bubble this society created. See women the natural way.
     
  7. Fungry4Success

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    We can quit the 'regular' way, or the kickass way! I for one have been so long running away from urges, triggers and whatnot.. 4 years later, with two 'reboots' under my belt (90 days clean) I relapse time and again. Now I see what needs to change. The idea is not to keep running but stop, face your demons and crush them for good.
     
  8. Veronico

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    In fact, i'm motivating them. Don't see the word weakness as an insult or whatever, see it as motivation to be stronger! I helped a guy on my PMs and he followed my steps and he realised that the solution is not running away from sexual triggers, but face them and destroy the illusion that won't make you see women the natural way!
     
  9. Veronico

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    Yes bro! Don't allow sexual temptations to control you! See what makes you attracted in a woman and tell yourself, - "hey, but that's just how that woman is made!" Women have that shape because they are women! I should not be attracted by default just because she's beautiful! I am the one who decides wether to be attracted or not. And if that woman is in a pic or is in a video, what is the point for me to fap and lust on her??? If we were on a bed then that's a different story! Destroy the sexual illusion once and for all. Take control of your own libido!
     
  10. Skadoosh

    Skadoosh Guest

    You wish people were like you and did things your way. If that's your idea of motivating people it's not a very good one. I don't think any of us here like being weak. We also don't like porn either. I'm pretty sure that's why most people are here. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with all of this. It's also funny all these assumptions you're making about my perception of women ... as if you understand me at all. You've made nothing but blanket statements that are very polarizing, but in reality it doesn't describe anyone in here at all except your idea of what your ideal man should be. And how does your alpha male nonsense explanation apply to the women in this forum? Guess what? It doesn't. Not every man that is addicted to porn is viewing women as sexual objects. Addiction or whatever it is that causes people to watch porn has about a thousand reasons. Addiction is not black and white. Experiences are not black and white. And that's why your soap box topples over. Do you think this explanation of yours applies to folks that are possibly watching porn because they were molested as kids? Do you know how far down the rabbit hole goes? You have no idea what people have gone through or why they're here. I get that you're trying to sound motivational. But that's not at all how it comes across.
     
  11. Veronico

    Veronico Fapstronaut

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    Ehhm... chill. All I'm trying to say in this thread is to face your sexual temptations instead of running away from them. That's the only solution to be free from porn and sexual temptations.
     
  12. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I agree to an extent, trying to repress natural sexuality doesnt really work and just leads to more potential trouble down the road, which is why I believe mastering sexuality is more important. Sexual lust can be as much of a vice as gluttony or greed, its important to ensure that normal human desire doesnt overtake your life.
     
  13. Skadoosh

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    And that's where you're wrong. That was your solution. And although it could work for others, it most certainly isn't the "only solution" ...

    You're speaking in absolutes and generalizing people. And your posts are dripping with a sense of superiority.
     
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  14. Veronico

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    Yes, you need to masterize your libido to be in control of your sexuality.
     
  15. Kazmi

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    Yeah, but crushing your demons doesn't mean to get back your access to a porn site. Hope you can understand what I mean.
     
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  16. Veronico

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    No superiority here. Just trying to motivate people and make them understand that they should not see women as sexual objects because they are not. You need to see women the natural way, therefore you need to face your triggers and fight them instead of running away from them forever until you relapse. But do you. I believe this is the only solution. If you want to keep running from sexual temptations, do you.
     
  17. Skadoosh

    Skadoosh Guest

    You keep implying that anyone that has this addiction is simply suffering from female objectification. You're oversimplifying the problem while also implying there's only one solution. It just isn't that simple, I'm sorry.
     
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  18. Veronico

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    You don't get back to a porn site. You face your triggers by destroying the urges that leads you to think about a porn site. Therefore you go there and watch some sexual video and you control your libido by controlling your erection and decide wether to be attracted or not. I did that a couple of times and it worked. Or you can train yourself by watching sexual pics. You won't have any urges to go to a porn site or watch any sexual pics anymore after you mastered your libido.
     
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  19. Veronico

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    Damn, I did watch porn from 13 years old to 19 years old regularly almost everyday. If rewinding your brain and destroying the sexual illusion that makes you go so damn horny whenever you see women is not the solution then what is it? You need to see a psychologist then.

    You'd now say, not everyone is like you. Okay. Whatever. I posted here what I think it is the best and only solution, whic is willpower to destroy the sexual temptations. That's it.
     
  20. Right. Because just as rape is not only about sex, it's about power, PMO is not just addiction-to, but often the need to escape-from. In my case I was often drinking at the same time. It was all about escaping from a pain in my life to a fantasy world where I was in control and pleasuring myself. I suppose I could have looked at the tempting images but I chose not to (in the OP -- the mods have removed them). The pain and stress I was avoiding has left my life now and I have no need to test my need to escape into porn. For now, it's something I don't care about.
     
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