Another Rebooting + Marijuana Thread /Dopamine?/

My experience is that as you gain strength in NoFap, your cannibus needs will slowly melt away. You will start functioning at higher energy frequencies and cannabis will begin to bring you down. Cannibus brings about greater sensuality thus making Your #1 fight harder to accomplish, and yes I believe that it will impact your recovery some, but I went this route, it just takes longer and full and complete recovery didn't take place until my cannabis addiction was also completely removed. The more you advance with nofap the more willpower you will gain over time, and then when you slowly need less and less external sensory input for contentment, cannabis will fade from your life, and then once cannabis is gone you will gain another boost of willpower, and your nofap power will increase. Either way, I recommend concentrating on nofap most importantly but also attempt to slowly work on the cannabis habit over time. You will loose your need for it over time if successful with nofap.

In my experience, the most important addition to nofap that is not talked about here is transmutation exercises. It will help you in your battle tremendously, I wouldn't be where I am today without them.
Learn moola bandha, vajroli mudra, uddiyana bandha, jalandhara bandha, nadi shodhana pranayama, and breath of fire.
Practice morning and night every day.

 

Exactly! PMO is a really intense and extreme reward which results in other actions being dulled massively, for example- a hug to a PMO'er is nothing special, no dopamine release.. But a hug to someone who has totally rebooted and not PMO'd for a long time would be different, some release of dopamine and more heartfelt and satisfying..
Even more intense is someone whom hasn't PMO'd or even had an orgasm for years in which they would have even more impact from a simple hug.
This bleeds into many angles in everyday life over time, from the pleasure we get from tasting food, to how much more powerful our imagination and thoughts become.
Eventually, anyone whom gives up PMO will need less and less external forms of sensory gratification over time. Slowly, this leads to deeper inner growth and transformation, and a blossoming spirituality!

 

Thank you,
A pendulum swings 2 ways, so keep your guard up. The work is just beginning, and success is going to throw all of your dirt (karma) into your face. Don't look away. It's not going to be easy, but at the end of the road lies the greatest reward in the entire universe, freedom.
Jah love

 

Interesting points. I've always valued marijuana for the intense creativity it's provided me, but I'll admit that it's even gotten to the point where I didn't feel creative unless I was under its influence. My heavy PMO and MJ use have really coincided with one another as I came back to the MJ legal states 2 years ago after breaking up with my Japanese GF. I'd been living in an environment for a time where my access to both intoxicants were extremely limited.

After 14 days of noPMO I now feel my body and mind buzzing with energy (waiting for that flatline though...) and my overwheling urges to toke are not nearly as intense as they used to be. So far I can relate to your description of MJ's draw weakening with the onset of noPMO progress.

I don't wish to divorce myself completely from cannabis, instead using it as a tool which I employ sparringly- something that I can apply to add some spice to my ideas from time to time.

 

I can relate to this as well from my past experience, but I also remember wondering why an ejaculation of any sort, even if through wet dream, brought me a boost of creativity as well.

I believe that this was somehow related to a release of tension that was acting as a blockage in some way. Like you said, over time, we seem to become dependent upon these substances or actions for our creativity - which actually weakens its natural spontaneity and never actually solves the root of the problem, it is more like a temporary bandaid, or an escape.

Now, I talk a long conscious walk in nature, or sit in quiet and play my flute in order to bring about deeper relaxation, which brings me a boost of creativity.

I know that here at this website the goals are not usually of a spiritual persuit, but any time one is tending to self improvement of a positive nature (like NoFap), it in fact does bring about spiritual results. When a person begins this path of sexual restraint they are utilizing consciousness to strengthen willpower, and of course the gain of willpower will bleed out into many other areas of life, positively. The problem that I see here at NoFap is that there is a lack of information about the necessity to transmute the energy we are conserving, and to harvest the energies, instead of repressing them. Repression builds tension in the body and tension blocks spontaneous creativity.
With repression, the root of our problems (lust), doesn't go away, it silently grows and builds tension, and one day will explode, causing relapses and possibly worse.
I see marijuana as an act of repression. Marijuana makes it easier for the consciousness to go to sleep, causing semi-lethargic states of consciousness, which is a form of escapism. Escapism is not beneficial for seeing, contemplating, and comprehending the root of our problems (lust), which leads us into failure and suffering. In these semi-lethargic states we also cannot transmute our energies because we need a FULLY present consciousness in order to transmute our sexual energies.

Over time, if a person is conserving the energy and harnessing it through the many forms of conscious transmutation practices instead of repressing it, and working to remove the root of their problems (egos), their creativity will blossom naturally and spontaneously without the help of any substances.

Another thing that I will mention is that the pineal gland is the source of DMT, which is the source of our visions. All of the great visionaries like the classical composers, inventors like Nicola Tesla, the greatest artists, etc, had very developed pineal glands. It is sexual energy which fuels the pineal gland, and it is the loss of sexual energy which atrophies it.
Therefore, this path that we have all begun to dabble on, is the path that leads us to great powers of creativity, concentration, and genius!