Are you in porn final stage?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by SandsOfTime, Sep 22, 2018.

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  1. SandsOfTime

    SandsOfTime Fapstronaut

    Porn final stages are...
    1. It's make you psycho,
    2. Every time you get doubts on your partner.
    3. It's make you rapist.
    4. Your okay to share your partner.
    5. Dangerous sex also become fine for you.
    6. You never satisfied with one girl so finally you go to prostitution.
    I'm afraid.I believe nofap members are not in that final stage. This time is not to think about, is porn or masturbation good or bad? it's time for run away from that dark place before it eats you completly.
     
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  2. MasterRoshi

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    Interesting list. The rapist one is oddly out of place in my opinion.

    People who rape are not porn addicts. Or I should say PMO addicts don’t progress to rape, or other similar violating acts such as moleststion etc... Those people have some type of mental disorders. Same with the psycho one.

    But as for the others on the list, I meet those requirements. So I think I made it to the “final stage”
     
  3. Originaldutchcow

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    I think you are right. I believe the patterns of human dominance laid out in the transactional analyses books can also be applied to several types of sexual pleasure. The logic being that some people really get their dopamine shot when they are either sexually sadistic, dominant or submissive.
     
  4. MasterRoshi

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    I’ve been dominate, submissive, Sadistic, and everything in between within my sexual exploration. All of it was consensual though, even slave/rape fantasy.

    True rape happens from people who are sick. I would personally never hurt a fly, but my PMO fantasy has gone pretty deep. So I feel that I’m probably at the top of the PMO food chain when it comes to sickness, and am happy I’ve had the reprieve from it for this long. Cuz I needed it, or I would have gone insane.
     
  5. Originaldutchcow

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    This is what i mean with transactional analyses by the way :




    Since it is deeply encoded in human behaviour and the way in how we interact with the world, i truely believe some people get their 'high' when being in one of the ego states on a very sexual level.
     
  6. Mattew

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    I hired a lot of escorts, but it's better i don't think about that because just thinking about it it's still a super strong trigger for me.
     
  7. hardowner

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    No, I didn't go so deep...
     
  8. MovingOnFromThePast

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    This final stage of porn that you listed is what caused my 5 year relationship to end (beside #3 on the list). Ive already been eaten. Its a very dark path. Waking up to regret, guilt and shame is a never ending nightmare. I destroyed my partner, myself and the relationship. Never learn a lesson from regret. So much pain.... ive experience all of that on the list and was trying to live in a disgusting fantasy. And now in reality with the pain and suffering, I entered to another deeper darker place; regret, guilt and shame. Hard to coupe and grasp things on how each and everyday is like without my partnerandcrime. My soul is so damaged and when she left, a part of me left too.

    A year later and im still suffering in tears. Theres nothing wrong with this world but i choose to make it a cold world. I dont want porn in my life because it lead me to two suicide attempts, but why do i choose to continue to watch porn. I try stopping and then i fail. Its like i know the answer to happiness but i choose to live in this dark place.

    Final stages of porn, funny on how i saw this post. I read many post but not like this one that was the closest to me. If you walked that path then i feel your pain.

    Yesterday is a fantasy so its the past in which we can never change. Today is reality so what we do now in the momment is what matters.
     
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  9. SandsOfTime

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    May be your correct. But what I have found is, porn teaches differnet things like sex with mom, sister, daughter, aunty, step mom and many more. What we see that will learn. May be adults are seeing for pleasure but kids brains are differnet? May be they will learn that. However, everyone knows that there is lot of rape porn is also available.
    May be rapists are not porn users but porn user may become a rapist. I'm not saying all porn users are rapists. Just imagine if a boy watches all the time rape category porn then he may think that rape is common, girl will submit at some stage and she will also enjoy the rape. Today so many child rapings are happening may be porn directly or indirectly educating that.
     
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  10. SandsOfTime

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    In porn industry, directors points the gun (trigger can be pressed at any time if that girls won't agree) and they makes rape videos, relases in the market. We have to be alert at every moment. Please don't cooperate them by seeing any such videos.
     
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  11. Mike110sta

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    Porn industry is a real threat to morality and humanity. I think even things like romantic porn which might be found 'not bad', could easily ruin a good relationship. And I am ashamed of myself why I didn't realize this sooner so now I wouldn't need to struggle quiting it.
     
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  12. Rape is a much more complicated issue than simply porn addiction. I feel that the placings are a bit flawed, I personally feel rape is a worse path than prostitution, but pornography alone does not have as much power as how we use it, it's not a physical substance. Many potential heroes, legends and successful people have some sort of addiction they're dealing with. I'd even say that the common softcore-to-hardcore-to-weird argument doesn't always stand true either, human preference goes a long way. So I'd personally refer to the degree that pornography affects your life directly or indirectly, and that the final stage is when you simply can't live the normal life you want and have zero self control.
     
  13. MasterRoshi

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    It’s all possible. I was basing my comments on what my therapist told me about people who rape or molest etc... she said that having stimuli association to fantasy is different than actually willing to engage in those acts in real life.

    But of course anything is possible and I’m no expert.
     
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  14. SandsOfTime

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    Excluding #3 mostly i have reached other stages. However, currently I'm out of those stages. I don't want to return. It's day 29 with out pmo. Waking up with no sins, no regret, it's a great feeling. I'm experiencing confidence from past 29 days. I'm sure everyone (Fapstronauts) love that feeling.life is something beautiful.we are not understanding or not handling in such a way. Love doesn't mean that partner should follow our rules. it's selfish act. Love mean something to compromise, respect and control anger. Put ourself in our partner shoes and think.

    If still there is a chance then correct your relationship with her. I love to know more about you. Your life story is something inspire us. If possible, Please let me know more about you?
    1. How you destroyed your parenter and relationship ? Can you elaborate that..are you married?
    2. Are you still in that black room? Are you trying to come out? What is your current streak?
    You can messenge me. You are always welcome.
     
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  15. MovingOnFromThePast

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    The past is now a fantasy of hoping and wishing for her to come back but the sad truth of selfish acts will not be forgiven. Wasted times that can not go back of 5 years. The pain of someone that died is what how i felt when she left. One day they are right by you and the next day gone. One day sleeping right by you and then now alone, sleeping by yourself. Memories, thoughts and reminiscing about the past that shed tears. I remember crying at least 5 days out of the week for 9 months straight minimum. Its been over a year and tears still drip but not as much and often as it was before. I dont over exaggerate on how much i cried because i never in my life cried so much. The worst days was when i cried after waking up, cried in the shower and cried before sleeping. Another harsh thing is when i see her in my dreams and everytime i am crying in my dream and physically crying in real life. Wasted times and can never go back so i wake up in shame, guilt, and regret every single second, minute, hour, week, month and years that go by without her. I took her for granted, i took the relationship for granted, i took time for granted.

    Dont feel bad for me because remember I ruined my own relationship. I decided to make poor decisions and where i am now in life is the outcome. All i know from experience is that porn can lead someone to escort. Remember this in life, never learn a lesson from regret.

    When i lost her, in the same year i lost my job, i lost a lot of money, my car broke down and i didnt have enough money to fix anything, man i couldnt even pay for insurance anymore. I couldnt even pay rent. 26 years old and spiraling down. For a whole year from the break up, i only went out and socialized 9 times out of the year. Locked myself in the room where i once shared 5 years of memories with. I thought to myself for many hours and days. The constant thought of her name and constant replays of past times. So many fucking tears been shed. That shame, guilt and regret.

    What did i do to avoid constantly thinking about her? I played games and my porn habbit came back and increased like crazy. Everyday life was cry waking up, cry in the shower, play games, watch porn, jerk off, and cry before sleeping. The only time i didnt think of her name was when i was playing games and watching porn. Sadly that is not productive and only made things worse. Suicide was running through my mind so many times.

    I am not the same as i was two years ago when i had to tell her the truth. I am not the same as i was over a year ago when she left. People change everyday. The past is now a fantasy and so when in reality of living in the moment is much more important. What we do now is what matters. I wish i could i tell myself that, i no longer watch porn anymore. Sadly ive succeeded and failed.

    Never learn a lesson from regrets.
     
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  16. I was watching a lot of rape porn. It was at a point where I was considering it with a woman I was lusting after at the gym.

    At that point I decided I need to get away from this crap and went to counseling.

    I’m 100% convinced that violent porn can lead men into committing violent acts against women. It won’t happen to all men but it can happen to some.

    I think some men think this type of statement is all inclusive so they shoot down the statement. I’m not making an all inclusive statement.

    It’s been reported many times that there have been rapists that had a considerable porn collection including rape porn.

    Not all rapists are porn addicts but some are. Not all porn addicted will become rapists but some will.

    Either way, I think getting away from porn will prevent us from slipping into some very ugly behaviors.
     
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  17. SandsOfTime

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    Great. I totally agree with you. Yes, porn changes our mind. I had been watching this in that black room for years and it's really changes the way of thinking and seeing. It's degrading our behaviours.
     
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  18. SandsOfTime

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    Similar sorrow of a wife who was somebody's wife, she says

    My husband of almost twelve years has been seeing prostitutes our whole marriage and even before we met. We are the same age of 33. We married each other when we were 21 years old.
    He has been seeing prostitutes since he was 18 when his uncle took him to a brothel. I can't believe I wasted all my twenties with a man who was so addicted to sex and never would touch me. I wasted all my youth with him. He spent over twenty thousand dollars a year on prostitutes our whole marriage, with this year being the worst. He spent fifteen thousand dollars in five months. He never let me work.
    I am screwed. He took out a dozen credit cards in my name and charged them up to the maximum. I owe about seventy thousand dollars in my name alone because of his addiction. He is an accountant and never let me see the bills. I am so stupid. Luckily we have no children together.
    I spoke to one of the prostitutes. She was nice and helped me a lot to see the truth. He would take off his wedding ring with all his escorts and say he was single. He western unioned this woman money with a credit card in my name. Spent about one thousand dollars on her with only three visits. But she is only one of dozens and dozens this year alone.
    Wow this sucks. There is NO NO NO WORDS in our language to describe the pain of my life and marriage of illusion. He says he wants to me to stay and he will change LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL:emoji_confounded:. Luckily I have no STD'S. I know God protected me and I am so thankful. Time to get out while I am still alive although I am dying a financial death.
    Whoever says go-go bars are harmless and internet porn is harmless are fools. Our country is destroying itself from within. Destroying families one by one for the cost of sexual freedom. LOL for such a free sexual society we sure are whacked out and as unhappy as ever. I am mourning the death of my marriage and the death of an innocence I had.
    Went through the scrapbooks I made. I am super sensitive and sentimental. I kept napkins from unique restaurants and sand from all the beaches we visited. It sucks. It is the worst pain of my life. It is just like losing a loved one. It does help to know that I am not the only one mourning in this life. I wish we could all get together and have one big hug and know that we will all be OK someday and the pain will go away.
    I keep telling myself that I will be OK but I cry everywhere and anywhere at any moment. Getting my nails done I cry. Ordering a coffee I cry. It is a pain that there is no words for.
     
  19. Tin Foil Hat

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    The stories about escorts really hit home. I lost my girlfriend of 4 years because of my porn addiction and she found messages of me organizing an escort. I backed out in the end and didn't go but i almost did. Porn definitely escalates, its a blackhole and one i hope to get out of.
     
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  20. SandsOfTime

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    Thank you for sharing. It's really a great sorrow. I can understand it's so hard to come out and live a normal life again. But still we have only one life, whatever, we have to do in this life only. I know you never do wrong again. Move on.. you can correct those mistakes by building a happy family again, helping poor, orphan kids and become a good person. Human is a great creature of the God.Replace bad deeds with good deeds. It's really make you happy.