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Battling alcoholism and PMO addiction. Need advice?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by skaterdrew, Oct 6, 2019.

  1. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    So I have been focused on battling PMO for a long time. But today I have decided I am drinking way too much, and I think I might be an alcoholic.

    I spoke to a guy from an alcohol support thing on the phone, and I made an appointment with my doctor.

    I am drinking easily a bottle and a half of whiskey a week, and that's on a good week. Some weeks I drink even more than that. My tolerance is so high I only get a bit merry off half a bottle of whiskey. Last night I drank 3 quarters of a bottle of whiskey and I was just a bit merry.

    But for some reason I find it difficult to focus on battling two addictions at the same time, PMO and alcohol. But I suppose if I stop the drinking my PMO will naturally reduce.

    Look I know PMO is bad. But surely I should be more concerned about my drinking even more than PMO?
     
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  2. Carbon Icon

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    Maybe time to try AA or something similar
     
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  3. I have alot of experience with alcoholism. Ive never had a problem with it because i dont touch it. My father on the other hand has struggled with it his entire life. Ive also had other family members drink themselves to death. All addictions are bad but i think alcohol and drug addictions are the worst. I cant tell you if trying to stop both is best, or individually is best because ive never been through that. But you really need to get the alcohol thing in check as soon as possible. Ive seen too many lives around me completely destroyed or loss as a direct result of alcohol addiction. The porn thing is not good for sure. But on a scale of severity the alcohol is a much bigger issue. People here may disagree because this is a forum focused on porn, but trust my experience. Someone suggested AA, and im all for that, do whatever you need to to get a handle on it ASAP. Idk, if youre religious but my father beat 30 years of alcohol dependency by getting back into church. Surrounding himself with the moral principles and convictions of the bible and the strong support and prayers from his church family got him out of that dark hole and turned his life around. This is a man that previously had told me that had accepted his fate that he couldnt stop and would drink till he died. Im a christian myself so I know and believe the power of salvation and his testimony proves it.
    Im not trying to preach to you here but Its something to think about. Youd also be suprised how many people in church congregations have struggled with and overcome pornography addiction and are open with about it. Good luck to you on your journey
     
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  4. When I started NoFap, I started to crave more caffeine and alcohol. That is because the brain is looking for dopamine and it knows exactly where to get it. I eventually stopped all of it, and NoFap was the trigger.
    Although I did not drink as much as you. To me that sounds like too much for sure. Maybe you can try both at the same time.
    Physical Alcohol addiction goes away after 10 days or so. the psychological addiction is the hard part.
    Think about everything you're destroying with PMO and alcohol.
    It is unbelievable how much stronger I got, once I said no to all this sh*t.
     
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  5. Quoowahb

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    You might try the Sinclair Method for alcoholism. It had an 80% success rate in one Finnish study.
     
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    Bro, 5-htp
     
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  7. Alcohol and PMO are both depressants. Withdrawal can be hell and land you in an actual depression-like withdrawal state if these addictions have been severe enough to cause tolerance and dependency. Being aware of this is the first step to recovery. I'd definitely talk to a doctor or a rehab specialist about it since you will be going through detox no matter what if you decide to stop. You will probably need to be monitored during this time and may need treatment depending on your symptoms. Take good care of yourself man.
     
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  8. Mistersofty

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    What size bottle are you drinking? big difference between a 1.75L and a 750ml.
     
  9. Ideally stop everything of course, but for the purposes of NoFap, stop or limit the booze if you think it's negatively affecting your aims.
    For me, a heavy hangover is the worst thing by far for taking me back into heavy masturbation/sex/fantasy/pornography.
    For context, I was on sometimes 750ml of spirits per night though..
     
  10. skaterdrew

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    Usually half a 700ml about 3 times a week. But when I go out with friends I drink a lot more than that.
     
  11. skaterdrew

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    I honestly think I might be able to quit porn quite easily simply if I avoid alcohol.

    The last time I drank was Saturday. I drank 3 quarters of a 700ml of whiskey. I am beginning to really crave alcohol tonight.
     
  12. There you go, guess you need to quit alcohol or reduce it.
    You'll find your path through all this.
     
  13. skaterdrew

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    I'd say my porn addiction used to be worse than my alcohol addiction. But these days I feel like my alcohol addiction is worse than my porn addiction.

    I really fancy a drink right now.
     
  14. I've been free from Alcohol for 7 months. If you think there's a problem it's probably so

    Quit it. If you find you can't stop then it's a problem. Best decision of my life to Quit, never going back to that hell. My hangovers and Anxiety were off the charts when I was a drunk. It's taken this long for it to go away
     
  15. Mistersofty

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    Ok, that's definitely pushing it. I've been there myself and had to reboot from alcohol for a few months. Been keeping it to a couple a day without a problem since. I think if you can stick to that, you're in the clear. Otherwise alcohol might not be for you. Either way you should probably go without if it's hindering your reboot.
     
  16. skaterdrew

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    Personally I am at the stage I think I would hardly ever relapse on porn if I didn't drink.
     
  17. Mistersofty

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    Can't be serious about rebooting from PMO if you're dealing with hangovers. It could be next to impossible.
     
  18. skaterdrew

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    Yeah hangovers can make not relapsing on PMO basically impossible.

    It depends, some mild hangovers I can still refuse porn. But at the very least even if it is a mild hangover it is still going to increase my sexual arousal to some extent.

    Basically the worse the hangover the higher the level of sexual arousal. The worse the hangover the worse the relapse.

    Severe hangovers usually I find my self PMO binging the entire day.

    It's not that I am not serious about rebooting, it's that I have an addiction to alcohol. I try to stay off alcohol, but always end up relapsing on that as well.
     
  19. Mistersofty

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    I get it. I have the same problem, but it's usually only when I drink socially that I consume more than a couple. Luckily I don't get out much these days. You probably go out a lot more at your age so I'm sure it's more of a problem in your case. At any rate it's probably a good idea that you're giving it a rest. Hope you stick to your guns. Good luck.
     

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