This one goes out to all the Doctors, mainly of Modern Medicine, excluding Hippocrates, who like to make the public believe that regular masturbation and ejaculation are healthy things... http://www.semenloss.info/content/evidence-value-semen-physical-mental-health/index.html http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091006222929AA184Wx http://www.semenloss.info/content/ayurvedic-intro/index.html Hatebreed "Burn The Lies" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWrOrMQdqcI They're so persuasive, with their fucking lies. Not an ounce of respect. They'll do anything to sell deception. Burn the lies. Their words of ignorance. Shove them back. Back down their throats. All that I have for you is hate. They will quickly abandon, what little morals they have. Tell you that you are worth nothing, with no regard for anyone.
Ah.... this is just going extreme to the other side. I mean if dude online says that he is doctor we should believe him right? Because people do not lie online right? He is telling that masturbation, wet dreams and sex are bad for health. Really? Then i suppose we should multiply like amoeba, i guess that will be healthy enough. We obviously know that every day and often masturbation and specially in combination with porn is bad but going so far telling that sex is bad for health is just ridiculous. Sex with real partner is good in so many ways. It is same thing as food. If you eat 20 times a day it wont be good for your health. Going extreme in any direction is not good for you. Working out more than you can handle is bad for you. Key is finding balance in everything you do. I have tried nofap for 105 days on hard mode. I saw benefits, i recommend it to everyone but do not push your self over the border you can not handle. Last few days of my journey i was distracted, frustrated, i could not sleep and i gave in. I felt no rush after it or during M. That was 7 days ago. Since then i did not M, did not had desire and i feel fine just like in the middle of nofap journey. I suppose it depends on level of hormones, age etc. Do not listen to the extremists of any sort. Find you balance in which you can be productive and not distracted- I mean "sex is bad for your health". For the heavens sake...
Angriff - The key is finding balance in everything you do. Well put. But for real guys, calm yourself and do what works for you. If some people believe that masturbation is good for them, power to 'em. I know from personal experience that I'm better off without PMO. Just do what works for you. Other people are entitled to their opinions.
Lol, I can see I offended you and made you angry, your username suits your response to my thread well... Anyways I want to apologize, I was in a giddy mood earlier and had that song stuck in my head, but I guess how it came off as extreme haha, sorry. Btw, I wasn't implying sex is bad, of course it isn't. That one link is by an old school Indian doctor, in India the swami's are basically nazi when it comes to preserving semen and practicing celibacy, sorry to drop that knowledge into your face without the proper references to verify the info. Anyways, Taoists believed in having sex as much as one desired, although non-ejaculatory sex. You see, when you come to understand other forms of medicine and the alchemy of the human body, you gain a new perspective on what exactly happens when you have an ejaculatory orgasm and expel sexual energy from your body. Maybe take a look at the books in my sig if you want to start gaining a new perspective. But you seem pretty deadset in the way you see things already. Sorry bro. I'm sorry for coming off as extreme and offending anyone, really not my intention but I can see how this thread could have offended.
Ancient Chinese sex secrets for anyone interested, a gift for my idiocy : Art of the Bedchamber: The Chinese Sexual Yoga Classics Including Women's Solo Meditation Texts
"YOU offendend me"? I was commenting link you posted not YOU. Extremists of any kind are misleading, that was my point. I can not stand self righteous people who think that they are keepers of the truth and their role in this world is to "enlighten" us for rest of us are stupid and blind because it reminds me of fascists. I can talk only about my own experience and i can say that porn is damaging. I can also say that abstaining for 105 is also damaging, i can say that masturbating once a week is also damaging, but masturbating once in few month is not.
I'm still a newbie and I was quite skeptical to the nofap benefits I read about here, thought it may be just placebo. However I can already see big improvement after just two weeks. After fapping to porn for like 13 years it really pisses me off that I was told my whole life that masturbation is healthy and there are no downsides except the time-loss. How can modern medicine be so wrong about something so serious? If my healing continues well, I'm planning to talk to my friends about it. I know at least one of them likes porn and is struggling from ED without a physical reason. I read some interesting stuff about Asian daoists. They believe that every loss of semen due to masturbation costs a man some of his life energy. However if a man has actual sex with a real woman he can gain some of this energy back, even if he orgasms. I'm not esoteric or something but to me it feels kind of true when I really think about it. After I had sex with a woman I feel very positively relaxed, but not exhausted. Also I don't get depressed and there are no regrets afterwards. Furthermore I feel like it's a bit of a nice core workout and it gives me even more energy to workout or go for a run. On the other hand I feel so very bad after binging on porn. Why is it like that? Maybe there really is some energy that rewards us for havig sex with women but somehow punishes us for wasting our precious juice of life in tissues.....
