Day 170 LFG

thank you for making this post...I once went over 160 days...but i was doing it wrong. I have relapsed on day 163 i think...it wasnt a perfect streak....all the while I was edging and peeking. It went worse from there....but the fear of relapsing kept me going for a while.

Anyway, is there a routine or habits that help you in the NoFap journey and not deviate from it???

 

Hey brother. Thank you for the detailed post. I went on for over 1 year of no masturbation but relapsed afterward. Then I've been relapsing ever since and currently struggling to go past 1 week. Now I visit this forum daily to get motivated and remind myself.

The reason for relapsing was, my reboot wasn't clean. Toward the end, I was edging, fantasizing, and watching porn. So it was a matter of time before I relapsed. The good thing was, like you I kept a journal. In the journal, I had kind of a system in place. Now I feel like, whenever I relapse, I kind of relearn old lessons.

Also the last time, yoga and reading a rebooting book helped me a fuck ton. Without yoga, I could not have managed the excess energy to be honest. So this time, I'm doing yoga without missing a day. As for the rebooting book, there is a book written by a Chinese fapstranaut called 'Roobting as the best remedy'. I highly suggest you brothers read it. He has a good knowledge of Traditional Chinese Medicine, and he mixes that with the reboot. I attached that book here.

 

What an inspiring post! Thank you for sharing brother. My ultimate aim is to be free from these shackles. Respect to you!

 

Well done and I say keep going. Try to do Monk Mode 90 days and see how it goes. My longest streak was 480 days on Hard Mode and Monk Mode and I clearly saw the benefits. Trust me it will get to the stage where no PMO will be easy like breathing.

I got bored staying out of NoFap even though I have gone way beyond rebooting. So I am back to do Mind Mode - to avoid a single thought of sexual indulgence for the next 90 days.

 

Hey brother. Please keep us updated on how your mind mode goes. And the methods/techniques you use to keep the sexual thoughts away or how you deal with those sexual thoughts when they do come up. I have always been facing difficulty in pushing away sexual fantasies. They take up so much time. Sometimes days of fantasies and urges before relapsing. Sometimes I've wondered if it's even possible tbh.

 

Yes and for this reason I maintain a journal on NoFap. I will be writing about resets and how I intend to deal with triggers when they arise again. Given that its Mind Mode its difficult to define a full relapse as it seems usual for most normal people to think of sex from time to time.

It is true there are plenty of people who are celibate at the body and mind in both religious and non-religious communities. So this may not seem like something new. However as far as the NoFap community is concerned, the Mind Mode is new and experimental, sort of avant-garde. What really motivated me was to ponder on the view of neuroplasticity in relation to addiction where people can overcome inclinations to that through a prolonged period of abstinence. So if the same principle was used to see persistent sexual thoughts or fantasies as a form of 'addiction' then where will the abstinence to those thoughts lead us provided we can maintain that for a prolonged period of time? So my engagement with Mind Mode is also to do with answering this question.

Its not that easy. Monk Mode now looks like a piece of cake compared to Mind Mode. Its mostly because our minds are far too quicker than our bodies.

For now the techiniques are prophylactic where I try to do contemplation of 32 body parts and cemetary contemplations (through visualisation as well as looking up images) in addition to basic mindfulness meditation. I used to do autopsies so I am using this experience to my advantage by recollecting the process, including the feeling of the texture and smell of the body parts.

Now I really didnt want to use methods and just see how I can deal with the issue with pure awareness. But I also cant delay involvement with these practices also (I am a Buddhist like Soaring Eagle).

Prospectively I keep my gaze lowered when women are around. Its not with the intention of treating their facial or body image like a forbidden fruit, but instead to see the necessity behind looking. So a question I fed into my mind was, "do I really need to give a second look at that woman?" or "what purpose or benefit will you get from looking at that woman?" This attitude really requires you to be honest with yourself and catch your mind early before the thoughts get translated into action. In this mode, the mind is not your ally but your enemy. Treat the mind like an enemy. In reality the mind is the greatest enemy of all. The mind is a deceiver, a thief and a liar.

As you may be aware already, sexual fantasies give dopamine rushes. We are always looking for something to make the dopamine flow. So this is why when I did Hard Mode and Monk Mode I kept dopamine release reduced as much as possible including trying to avoid music, films etc. This was a time I was still about to have my first reboot so I just let the sexual thoughts be as they wish (and sometimes even fed them to get myself motivated). My success was partly based on attitude, about looking at it from the dopamine release viewpoint. This was a time when I did cold showers and Wim Hof breathing every possible day. I did the 5 Tibetan Rites and this is partly because there is a 6th Tibetan rite which can be utilised when you get an urge (the 6th should only be done when one has an urge and should only be done three times, but if done correctly just doing it once works). You may not have to do the entire 5 rites daily to make use of the 6th when you need to.

Those days when I got sexual fantasies, I made a rule to myself that provided I had an empty stomach, I will hit the cold shower (in addition to the one I take every morning). Cold showers are nice but even I didnt want to do more than one per day. I cant stress how much it works. Staying 5 minutes under maximum cold will make any urge go away. This can be done as an alternative to the 6th Tibetan rite. (Never do cold shower or expose body to the cold after the Tibetan rites). So just pick one at a time.

If you havnt already, then please read The SPAM REMOVED (spam code #001) - REPORT TO MODERATION way to Quit Porn by copyright infringer and spammer (used to be known as SPAM REMOVED (spam code #001) - REPORT TO MODERATION SPAM REMOVED (spam code #001) - REPORT TO MODERATION). Its a short read but read from 1st page to the last page without skipping.

Google 'SPAM REMOVED (spam code #001) - REPORT TO MODERATION Method' and this should come up as the first link where you can either download it in pdf or download it as epub and use Calibre to convert to mobi or azw3 to add to Kindle.

Try to find an accountability partner in real life who is focussed and commited on goals.
Start a written journal with a template - I started this after I finished my 90 days because thats when I was completely aware how necessary it was to write about it with pen to paper.

 

Great. I'm watching your journal. Would be helpful to other who follow your path. Thank you!

That actually makes sense.

Absolutely. For the past few days, after following your advice, I discarded any sexual thoughts after max 10 seconds of arising. So actually without the thought, nothing would happen afterwards. Like weed is being removed before they grow up to become big and strong. However, I didn't yet reach the period where I get really strong urges back to back. I'd have to see how having a disciplined mind would practically work/help.

Me too! And I know a monk who's practiced semen retention for 21 years. He has awakened all 7 of his chakras. Very happy to meet like-minded people in this forum.

I didn't know about this before. I watched a video. I'll try the 6th rite when I get an urge. Though I'm not sure if it should be done on empty stomach? Because I do a similar one in the morning on empty stomach.

Ok thanks. Will download and read this.

 

There is something fascinating about that...thank you for sharing that...

 

Great story , very inspirational

 

That's very inspiring story. Thanks for sharing with the community. I'm very impressed with your point of view with in general to life. I'm aiming to become outcome dependent, and i really struggle with it for some time.

Do you have any tips on that ?

Thank you,