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Day 234: Severe PIED. Morning wood is back, still very poor intraday arousal/erections?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by itsoverboyo, Dec 25, 2021.

  1. itsoverboyo

    itsoverboyo Fapstronaut

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    Age 29, coming off a 20 year, severe porn addiction. Eventually developed PIED. Very few sexual partners, hour+ of porn per day for decades. Had my first wood in about 10 years starting about 60 days into reboot. Now it's sporadic, with most days having solid morning wood. Only wet dreams set me back a few days now. However, intraday, my libido is still poor. And my arousal almost nonexistent at times. Occasionally at the beach I might get slightly hard if I fantasize about a hot girl. Often nothing whatsoever. From what I understand this is a dopamine issue from reading here: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/reb...ions-but-waking-erections-depend-on-dopamine/

    Just keep at it? I get some slight benefits from zinc, but it's like my dopamine system is just fried and taking forever to come back online. I could ALWAYS get hard to porn, even if it was a weak erection. Since I withdrew it, it's impossible, even at times with women. The one experience I had two months into reboot went OK, but I had taken a 5mg of ED med to make sure but only ended up making out with her. I was rock hard. It was definitely the ED med, though. My erection seems to go down quickly if it ever does come up due to arousal during the day.

    While my recovery is taking a long time, just imagine I was a severe addict who wired his brain to porn from a very young age and probably fried my brain pretty good. I felt absolutely nothing from anything other than intense porn specific genre's that I liked toward the end of my addiction. A real life woman, a picture, none of it would do anything. But the right porn vid, and I'd be hard for 2 hours. Sickening.

    It's shocking that I can wake up with a stiff erection, urinate, then my dick shrivel up and feel dead and lifeless for the remainder of the day, after being fully erect when I woke up. It just shows that this is an arousal issue and can't be physical in nature. I sure hope it's from the porn and not some neurological problem.
     
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  2. Mr Anderson

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    Sometimes porn addiction alone isnt the only thing impacting on our sexual life. Also recovering from it might take more actions than just quitting porn, because as you said dopamine takes a big role in this and once you start feeling happier aldo things will start healing faster, for example what I had to do was starting to do more exercise and stuff that improved my overall happiness and mood, also it made me remember my masculinity, it's so different when we sit all day long jerking to porn and forgetting what being a man is than going out there getting stronger better and healthier bodies, women will also look more at you and you'll feel better because of all the benefits it will give you your self steem is going to improve too and it is known that exercise boosts libido and all that. Also went swimming each week and practiced martial arts in fact soon I'm going to be on a tournament and all I can say is that I'm getting better each day, it has been a year since I started nofap and I haven't relapsed yet, only way I get off is by having sex with my wife but I think that if I could go hard mode id heal even faster
     
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  3. Arnulf

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    You say most days have solid morning wood. Was this also not there in the first 60 days?
     
  4. itsoverboyo

    itsoverboyo Fapstronaut

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    No more than 1 or 2 random morning woods in the 10 years prior to quitting porn. Around month 3 they started. I still have them, yet I am fucking DEAD libido still.
     
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  5. thikk

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    I agree with @Mr Anderson Very good points. I understand that pmo can be different fro people who started off at an earlier age, but in my experience (I was introduced to p at about 12 but did not have proper access till about 20, then I had pied and used pills for almost 8 years)... I completely healed pied after 90 days.

    1 thing I would mention is that the quality of nofap matters. If you're doing random things to get you aroused in the name of testing, or fantasizing, touching etc. Your healing will be delayed. Secondly, pied is associated with a lot of anxiety. So any small negative thought and your erection goes down. I did 90 days and on day 90 just went to an escort with no ed pills, and it just worked. Perfectly. Even when I was thinking about it, it just stayed.

    In reality, the problem is an addiction to pmo, so just stop pmo completely. Ignore anything else. Your situation may be different, but if you're 90+ days, very clean and honest to yourself then you can start looking for supplements etc to help as you take time to heal. But don't be the person who's still entertaining pmo, peeking, touching and all but would rather spend money on pills, supplements and everything else they can think of rather than just quit messing around.

    I hope this doesn't sound harsh, I have been where you are. Had a relapse and now trying to get free and go on with life like I did last year. Good luck bro.
     
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  6. Jurten

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    To OP:

    For the morning wood: that's generally a sign you're in a healthy state. I'd recommend you look up Kelly Starrett's appearances on podcasts, he discusses things of that general nature. Congrats on being healthy by the way.

    To clarify: Dopamine is not a feel good hormone. Its a cementing hormone. Its released when you do something pleasurable. It cements the actions that you took to get there in your mind. What you are asking is: "why is the cement not there?" when day dreaming about women or dating? The answer is that it hasn't been as pleasurable to you. Certainly not as much as porn has been. Do not expect that once the cement has crumbled when it comes to pornography that it will strengthen your other habits and associations. You need to maintain and build those yourself.

    Honestly you're probably best off looking through the success stories that are similar to your situation and picking out the actions and habits that are common in each and going from there. But rest assured you have not fried your brain.

    There is one other thing you might try. You seem to be paying a lot of attention to this problem, and only you can judge if its too much attention or not. "As a man thinketh" might be a good bit of material for you. Especially when it comes to thinking about the porn you now deny yourself.

    I hope it works out for you, and I hope you find a solution you'll share with others.
     
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