how many of you here substitute NoFap with escorts?

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by King Tut, Sep 17, 2019.

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  1. King Tut

    King Tut Fapstronaut

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    I am in the US, so technically this is illegal here. and I am someone who always follows the rules. I mean, the last thing I need rn is to be busted by the undercovers. as if I don't have enough problems in my life.

    so, I was wondering for all of you guys in Europe where this is legal and even in US. how many do this? does NOFAP still count after going to an escort? 100%! because you are actually dealing with a real life woman.
     
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  2. bestbacon

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    I think many of us have answered that NoFap is ruined by calling an escort. By calling and escort you are technically partaking in a sexual interaction in which no companionship is really offered to you following O unless you spend a huge sum.
     
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  3. LOTT2019

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    I don't think the issue is about how one comes to orgasm per se. Sex is good. But for some of us, certain types of behaviors can become unhealthy. Compulsive porn use is unhealthy for me. And so are other things that are not congruent with my values--such as escorts since I'm in a monogamous relationship. That's not to say I haven't violated my values in this and many other ways....BUT I get to choose what I want to try an abstain from. We all get to choose for ourselves. Escorts may be fine for some. So be it. Not for me.
     
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  4. King Tut

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    i totally agree with you and feel the same about this issue. but that is mainly because I live in the states. i wouldn't know what i would do were i to live where this business would be legal. because it's cleaner and more secure. wha u see what you get and you dont get scammed, robbed or arrested.

    but on the other hand, i was more curious about how single guys feel about this.
     
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  5. King Tut

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    NOFAP is not ruined. what are you smoking? NOFAP is ruined ONLY if you FAP yourself. i'll go as far as to say NOFAP is not ruined if a girl faps you. because there is an actual woman who you are having an EXPERIENCE with rather than fapping through porn.
     
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  6. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    Substitute nofap with escorts? What the blazes does that even mean?
     
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  7. King Tut

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    it's called having actual SEX with an actual WOMAN vs masterbation. pretty simple to understand.
     
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  8. MuscularSherlockHolmes

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    I don't know man... Prostitutes practice sex in different manner than real women, once you get addicted to them, you will never be satisfied with your average women out there in the world.
     
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  9. need4realchg

    need4realchg Fapstronaut

    I like your question. Please allow me this...


    Would you consider fapping to a screen in the comfort of your home equivalent to selecting, meeting and screwing a girl of your filthy dreams until the cows come home ??

    I don’t.

    I have argued and written a lot about this. Fapping is certainly bad, but to have actual sex incurs a whole different set of stimuli and challenges.

    I believe abstaining from pmo is a completely different challenge than that of real women.

    I have differentiated this in my own experience calling one pmo the other SA (sexually acting out —- which can become an addiction unto itself like the association suggests.)

    Especially when cost, planning, and time, location are all factors you don’t have to deal with in basic porn.

    I requested nofap staff to consider a tracker independent for this because while it’s not prevalent to find it in the US, it’s a whole world of difference when you travel outside the country.

    In one way— I think real sex can have an affect on fapping in a real way. You can’t have as much sex as you fap. One requires much more physical energy exertion than the other.

    So in a sense I see your point that sex with escorts (or easy women for that matter) it can be a deterrent.

    However — if your objective is a moral one — then yes paid sex is a compromise of your conscience.

    If you are strictly focused on a fully operating bodily function, then it’s a personal choice.

    I think many (I don’t know if most) use these services outside the country. Rite of passage and low cost barriers to entry make it easy to do. Depending on local economic factors.

    But no matter the situation, Purity of the mind, emotions and relationships is something that our bodies measure in terms of our sexual arousal.

    In other words , if you fuck a escort twice, you know and your erection shows that you know the difference. There is no motivation to fuck the same ho twice. Not so in porn masturbation world. The diminishing erection effect that happens in porn is much more subtle — which is why it goes unnoticed and guys discover the connection between their secret sex lifestyle and their sexual partners as a surprise. Have you ever met someone who anticipated having pied after limp erections in pmo habit?

    Our souls DO need emotional, spiritual and physical connection. Prostitutes can and MUST simulate that to a degree. Otherwise Having a woman coldly jack you off would feel like a bad science experiment.

    Nobody wants that. In the spirit of Nancy Reagan..”.just Say no to cold-hearted, frosty handed jack-offs. “
     
  10. Kai1997

    Kai1997 Fapstronaut

    I have visited hookers and escorts about 30 times and I think there is a huge difference to PM. Somehow it is better. But I would not recommend it. It costs a lot of money and you feel somehow bad because you need to pay for s**, while it seams that other men don't. You also lose the will to get to know woman in "real life", because it is so easy to have s** like this (In my country it is legal), as long as you have enough money . I have chosen the "Meet my own goals" banner because I do no PM and no payed s**.
     
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  11. jarvyjarvison

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    Well, if you already know the answer, why'd you ask?
     
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  12. psychedelicjelly

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    Yeah ah ha ha...
     
  13. King Tut

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    oh, but i meant more like once or twice every few months. not like a regular session. i should've made it clearer. if you spend that much money on escorts (every week or even 2x) you'd spend all your income on them... i meant mostly for emergencies, and have a minimum date. i would have one that 's like once per 3 months/90 days.
     
  14. King Tut

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    if that's how you feel, just get a GFE lol...
     
  15. King Tut

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    it was a statement, not a question. i didn't ask anything.
     
  16. SolaireofAstora

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    If i were rich, you bet your asses i would lol
     
  17. psychedelicjelly

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    Looks like a question with a question mark to me.
     
  18. King Tut

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    you are really annoying
     
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  19. Get_It

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    Sometimes I'm tempted to get an escort or a happy ending massage but then I smarten up and realize I can spend that money on better things.
     

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