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I'm a schizophrenic seeing how nofap can help me

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by nifahs, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. nifahs

    nifahs Fapstronaut

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    I've been on nofap for over a year, trying to succeed. I'm currently on day 9, and feel I can finally break this habit for good. All those times trying to quit definitely helped even though I've yet to fully succeed.

    Want I want to talk about is kind of me looking for some advice. I'm a schizophrenic, and I as a result say very deranged things sometimes (the other day I told a girl that society might break down soon, due to the corona virus and Trump killing Iran's Qasem etc...), unlike other schizophrenics, I can see why things I say are weird and can scare people away from me.

    Some of the type of things I say:
    - nothing is real, everything is a figment of gOd's "imagination"
    - I am not my body, rather I am the entire universe and beyond, and so is everyone
    - civilization is not designed with human biology in mind, rather deviates our physiology from it's natural function and thus technology needs to made with a focus of human biology in mind
    etc...

    My friend told me a few weeks ago, that every single person he has introduced me to has said that I'm weird. Some of them trying to avoid me. Girls in general, when speaking to me, usually lose interest eventually, due to perhaps me not being good with women, and also because I might say scary things that are alien to most people's thinking as above

    I was always treated as a weirdo even when a child, before I even started saying these type of things. But I'm not too sure why... Like for example when I was 12, when I was talking to this girl sitting beside me in class, she simply rudely says "don't talk to me", I always was shutdown by other kids, if I tried talking to them, they would give me a tone or outright tell me not to talk to them. As a result, I was unpopular and hung out with moreso accepting people, and or weirdos of the school themselves. lol

    I want to know, nofap although makes me more confident and sociable, doesn't take away my schizophrenic thought form and talking style, how do I overcome this?

    I don't want to be weird anymore, I want to have friends and a social circle where people treat me as at least not like a weirdo. My goal is *not to be normal however. I am concerned because I just want to start dating as well, and girls usually get scared of me eventually. Never had a girlfriend :/ I'm 23.
     
  2. don'tlookbackinanger

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    one good thing you've done is figure out what's keeping people away from you

    i suggest talking about the philosophical things when people are more comfortable with you ( these are things you talk about when on a roadtrip or on an hour long call or when you're high)

    and about being comfortable with people, you may want to work on posture, keep a smile but not like a creep. you wanna smile walking around but not when you're sitting with a group. force yourself to keep one and you'll get the hang of it soon enough ( it worked for me ).

    as far as friends go, find people that bring the best out of you. go to a sports club or somewhere where you can work with people together. all the friends i have made have been due to me and them doing something together ( travelling, eating, working, laughing )

    last thing i'd add learn small talk, do it from youtube or a book or anywhere. once you can do this you can know a few things about the person and they'll learn some about you :p
     
  3. nifahs

    nifahs Fapstronaut

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    Okay regarding the keeping philosophical things away from small talk, I understand, however sometimes people ask me questions, and I am tempted to always say the truth. And that means telling them my real views. I don't like lying, but I have decided to speak less, allow more silence, and to say things appropriate to what people are expecting from the conversation unless it obviously demands otherwise.

    Also what do I do about not knowing the social ques, and the appropriate social behaviors to display, it seems it is harder for me to understand these regardless of whether I wish to follow them or not.

    Do you really recommend a book? Which book do you recommend? Thanks for the response!
     
  4. don'tlookbackinanger

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    i think you're good in talking but you have trouble holding conversations which ultimately end up dry and continously drying up in conversations has led to social awkwardness.

    thing is i talk about the same things you mentioned above with my own friends; current events, politics, religion. you don't really have a problem, you just lack social experience


    do this too, it's the best way, mayb not the only way, but it works


    i suggest reading Dale Carnegie's works, particularly How to win friends


    you can also learn on the go, ask people what they like to talk about, what they have fun doing and what they talk about with others

    and if you're still running dry in conversations, try canned topics, there is some stuff on google i suggest researching that, i use it all the time :p

    finally, about social ques issues, try the youtube channel charisma on command, the guy covers this topic very well

    if you have any questions feel free to ask c:
     
  5. nifahs

    nifahs Fapstronaut

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    Thank you man Appreciate the book recommendation. I definitely like learning on the go, but I'm gonna give that book a read sometime.
     
  6. blademaster87

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    Hey man, I can totally relate, suck at socializing too. I think there's no easy way to this, some people make it out like "just be yourself and easy going", but if I'd be my true self I probably wouldn't even talk with 99% of the people I see, lol. Socializing requires effort, it's gotten easier for me when I realized this. I've since been studying psychology and nlp (neuro-linguistic programming) to maximize my efforts trying to be a more ongoing person. The hardest part for me is eye contact since I'm pretty much a nervous wreck, it's intense.
     
  7. nifahs

    nifahs Fapstronaut

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    True, but to be honest, I feel my confidence and social skills have dramatically improved to the point where other people can barely tell if I have some sort of anxiety at all. A lot of people even sometimes think of me as confident from the way I talk. I feel it's because I listen more, talk less, and I try to always talk about the other person or what they like to talk about, this makes people automatically love the conversation more as it's about them. Also it maintains you as a little more mysterious and that can never be a bad thing. Exercising regularly helps dramatically. Sprinting in particular.
     
  8. blademaster87

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    That's interesting, I'll try taking myself out of the equation when I'm talking to someone. This could help knowing that I'm by nature a little bit egocentric.
     
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