Is porn without masturbation really all that bad?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by goodnice 3.0, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. goodnice 3.0

    goodnice 3.0 Fapstronaut

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    I found a few good posts on this, but I was just wondering whether porn itself (alone, without masturbation) is all that harmful...

    What are some reasons not to watch porn? I know porn gives you too much dopamine, but doesn't instagram as well.

    I thinnk watching porn even without masturbating will make you lose a lot of time
    @u376 what are your thoughts on this bro, since you went over a year without masturbating, but watching porn. Is it bad?


    "I can say with complete sincerity that there is absolutely nothing hot about watching the exploitation of women on a screen filmed by a cameraman with a wet boner. The whole concept of invading someone's privacy like this, even if they allow it, goes against everything my parents raised me to be

    As a morally strong person, you should have the strength of character needed to maintain your principles in the face of temptation- I daresay that's what nofap is really all about.

    For me, this is all I needed to realise to find P unappealing. I am no longer a Porn addict by any measure and I have gone months without it with absolutely no temptation to return. "
    - @All For One
     
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  2. Emanuil

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    why would you watch porn if you don't plan to masturbate?
    there are so many other movies and things you can watch.
     
  3. goodnice 3.0

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    cuz its nice to look at naked women. But good point, there is so many other things you could do
     
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  4. Emanuil

    Emanuil Fapstronaut

    hm, the problem is that porn movies nowadays usually don't include naked women only. I don't know if that category still exists;)
    Anyway, it's better to work on a real thing. When someone finds a partner he usually loses the will to look at other girls. (sometime problem persists, but that's a completely different issue)
     
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  5. skaterdrew

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    I personally think it is the combination of masturbation and porn/artificial sexual stimulation together that causes the problems. Particularly masturbating to porn and artificial sexual stimulation on a high novelty platform. So high speed internet, a never ending sexual novelty platform.

    I can't see how a guy could ever develop something like PIED if they literally never masturbated but they still watched porn a lot but never masturbated. I just can't see how PIED could ever be developed through doing this.

    But I honestly don't think much guys could do this, or would want to do this in the first place. It's likely most guys would end up masturbating to that stuff sooner or later.

    I was going to say why would you even want to look at porn without masturbating anyway. But there is actually these porn trailers that I like watching without masturbating to them. These trailers strangely don't seem to arouse me. I just like the combo of the music in the trailers and the way the trailers are put together. It looks good and sounds good. I see it as a well put together production. It's the sort of thing If I am ever drinking I literally like having it on the widescreen while blasting it, and there is this good rock, punk, metal music in the trailer along side the porn scenes in the trailer. Another thing I have noticed is in some of the trailers there is music that is not the genre I like, and I just instantly put these trailers off. But then the trailers with the music genre I like I enjoy watching and listening to these trailers.

    I honestly don't think I have ever masturbated to these trailers. But I do like watching them and listening to the music in the background of the trailer, blasting it with the head phones in or blasting it on the widescreen tv.

    Obviously this is something I rarely ever do these days though, as I do still consider this watching porn. But the way I am looking at these trailers isn't the same as when I am looking at the content that turns me on when I am PMOing.

    I have and would get turned on from the actual scenes from these trailers though. As I have PMOed to the full scenes from these trailers before. But yeah I don't seem to feel turned on from the trailers. Like I said the way I watch these is much different from when I am looking at content when I am PMOing.
     
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  6. Show me a man who looks at porn without masturbating and I'll show you a liar. Stick with what works in practice, not with what might be okay in theory.
     
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  7. I tried doing this. It went on for almost a month and a half. All I was doing was mentally edging myself, aside from the times my body reacted without physically touching myself. The big issue I had was I never knew when I was done(in all honesty I wasn’t done I wanted to prolong the fantasy as long as possible.

    I wouldn’t recommend this from my experience
     
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  8. Arjuna's path

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    It's bad? I don't know, what is your definition of bad?
     
  9. Joe1023

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    This, to me, sounds a lot like the comparison of an alcoholic wanting to hold a beer without drinking it. If you're not going to M, why watch P? There's absolutely zero reason to do that, especially for an addict. That's begging for a reset. Its inviting in temptation, which regardless of how good it may feel, is (I'm sorry to say this, but) a stupid thing to do.
     
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  10. Of course it is still bad, you are reprograming your brain to porn, you become porn itself, not to mention the toll it takes on your dopamine receptors.
     
  11. Emanuil

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    actually, that's possible :) (to watch porn without masturbating). you are still aroused a little bit, but nothing happens, even full erection can be absent.
    But you are right, it doesn't happen so often in reality, and you must have really good reason to watch porn without masturbating.
     
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  12. Emanuil

    Emanuil Fapstronaut

    You're right, this is very difficult if you haven't completely mentally parted with pornography. But if you understood the reasons why do you watch porn in the first place - it's possible to watch it without masturbation. Of course, there's always some very mild natural reaction, but it's normal (like salivation before eating).
    The real question is why would someone do that at all?
     
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  13. Why even watch porn?

    Even nofap aside, give me 1 good thing that comes from watching naked people have sex.
     
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  14. ;) I get it and in fact I've done it, but the ratio of watched porn and beat off to watched porn and did not beat off is like 999 to 1. And in both cases I am still looking to rid myself of boredom. The reason I am here is to find better ways of dealing with boredom and stress. If someone else is here to get in the habit of watching porn so they can take notes and not beat off my hat is off to them but I think they are cray cray. :D
     
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  15. goodnice 3.0

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    i don't want a partner, and all the troubles that come with it at the moment. Relationships seem to just cause baggage, unless its the right person. But most relationships are just temporary things that fizzle out and end up in more heartbreak.
    Also, it is impossible during this quarantine anyway
     
  16. goodnice 3.0

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    i did. @u376
    I have also done it before many times
     
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  17. goodnice 3.0

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    i suppose i am looking for a scientific explanation. Something that shows that porn alone (without M) is like a drug that harms your brain, or something like that
     
  18. goodnice 3.0

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    thats tru
    how does this compare to say scrolling through your instagram feed where you are getting constant novelty as well. Is it that the level of stimulus is much higher with porn
    its just hot, its nice to look at. If your girlfriend stripped for you, but you weren't allowed to masturbate, you would still enjoy looking at her. You wouldn't tell her, why would i even look at you, if im not gonna masturbate
     
  19. Explain your motives.
     
  20. goodnice 3.0

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    Well, I want to look at some naked women, so I do, but i don't wanna fap, cuz i feel crappy afterwards. Just looking is like watching a movie to me. Although, I do get aroused
     
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