Legal action agains the p industry?

People (decedents of cancer victims) got gradual settlements after several decades of litigation because big tobacco had evidence that cigarettes caused cancer and kept it secret.
It was a biological factor that led to millions of deaths. As much as I despise the porn industry, I don't think anyone has ever died from too much porn. They might've lost money, or relationships, or happiness, but those are not protected by the government, unlike life.
Porn is a psychological addiction that messes with your mind. Tobacco, heroin, etc., is a biological addiction that can and will kill.
Porn won't do that. Except that one time...

And to Gopher, I agree. Victimizing oneself doesn't lead to real victory.

 

Porn addiction is all about dopamine, so it's a physical addiction, since it shapes your brain. Dopamine is also involved in many other addictions, such as tobacco and heroin.

 

1. It would be very difficult to find out who to sue, because the country of residence of many of the sites is not going to be obvious and may be shielded. Laws are going to differ in each country. For paid websites, one is going to have to be of legal age to make a purchase so it would be difficult to justify suing if one paid for the service.
2. Pornography must be a hundreds of billions of dollar industry per year. As defendants, they have much more financial resources than the person suing and would likely squash any case.
3. PMO is not yet recognized in the mainstream as an addiction. It doesn't have the public attention/awareness that other problems have and because people are fearful of letting others know of what they are experiencing, it seems like a smaller problem than it is actually is.

The way to end the industry is to stop supporting it. Once the movement spreads and more individuals exercise their personal freedom, there won't be a demand for it.

 

This is a great idea.

Awhile ago (within the past year?) there was a push in the US Congress to force porn sites to use .xxx domain names. It was defeated due to free speech concerns (lol) but If something like that were to pass, you could plaster all .xxx sites with addiction warnings. It would be much harder as long as sites are mostly .com's.

 

I think we sbouldn't fight this problem like this. The most important thing is to raise public awareness about this issue by social campaigns. It should be effective enough that every new guy starting watching porn knew that it could possibly has negative effects. The another thing is that most of people starts watching porn when they are teenagers, there is great responsibility on parents to protect their children. Our parents didn't expect the seriousness of this issue but we are different so as a parents/future parents it's up to us to save the next generation. Finally we should keep in mind that everyone has a free will which means that we can make our lifes great or ruin it, and porn doesn't always need to end up with addiction. Also we should keep in mind that we can't ban everything which can hurt us.

 

I always liked the idea that if each and everyone of us printed off 500 flyers or whatever, then stuck them up anonymously around their areas, it would surely get a lot of media attention and get people talking about the issue. It would greatly increase exposure to the NoFap/YBOP site and help people who perhaps didn't realise they had a problem. The flyer would have to be well designed, but I'm sure there's a graphic designer among us. Apart from the anonymous emails to local news and national papers tipping them off to what NoFap/YBOP is, and how it's helping people. Tweeting celebrities etc. This site is growing at a crazy rate, but what it really needs to is exposure on a grander scale.

 

Basically, there is still a lot of academic disagreement about the actual "harm" of porn.

Those on the liberal side say it's about freedom of expression, undertaken by consenting adults, which is ultimately a healthy thing. But although there is mounting proof that it does trigger the addiction parts of the brain, the findings are not yet as conclusive as with tobacco. And unlike a cigarette being a cigarette, porn is not always porn; it's hard to universally define. But one thing we do know already is that porn is deeply tied up with human rights abuses; poor women, children and men sometimes being kidnapped, drugged, raped and never really consenting to being prostitutes for cameras. It's a silent slave trade in sex. But if we can learn anything from the fight against tobacco, we know that the p industry will invest buckets of cash, right up to the last possible moment, convincing the public that porn is 100% good, safe, normal and fun.

But I think the other issue may be more difficult; unlike with big tobacco companies, it's not always clear where the money is here. Although the p is a multi-billion dollar industry, it would be v difficult to pin-point a company to sue; we've all likely consumed multiple productions, not just online, but in movies, magazines, advertisements, even music; porn is often attached to another industry as a way of selling something else. Add to that the fact that actual porn companies tend to be quite small and change hands very often, and even struggle to compete with mountains of free online content, then just finding the money could be really difficult.

I think it's a much better bet that when the evidence against porn becomes irrefutable, there'll be a case for laws to be passed to outlaw the production and distribution and to /try/ to filter online content.

But it will be a bitter fight, made all the more harder by the fact that, just as with tobacco, the "adult entertainment lobby" have been carefully worming their way into political donations and very clever marketing assaults which have changed public opinion on porn away from "smut" to "mainstream".

Pile onto this the challenge that many people have a vested interest in defending porn because, well, they're already addicted - including lawyers, judges and politicians - and theyre terrified of being exposed as hypocrites if they decide to fight porn.

It's really the battle of our lifetimes.

 

What a great post Alex07. I agree with everything you just said and couldn't possibly state it any better.
I wish I could upvote it haha

In response to that flyer idea, I fear that stunts like that might associate us with religious groups that are anti porn/masturbation. No offense to those groups or any religious Fapstronauts, but I don't think they're taken very seriously in our society. I didn't take it seriously for a long time. At least now I appreciate and approve of it. I know a large amount of Fapstronauts abstain for religious reasons, which is fine, but I believe NoFap is especially powerful because of legitimate studies on YBOP and elsewhere that we tend to cite so often, as opposed to the God/Church disapproves arguement.

 

I would advise again acting a victim and reacting aggressively against the porn industry.

Firstly, acting like a victim won't help you deal with your own addiction. You can rationalize relapses by saying "I'm just a victim of the porn industry" and not take accountability for your own action.

I don't think it will be easy to topple the only film industry that makes consistently high profit margins (for the reasons you pointed out). I think a way to encourage people to stop using it is if something like the anti-smoking campaign went public. We're just finding out now how watching porn affects developing minds.

Presenting the scientific evidence, especially the long-term stuff, can go a long way to help encourage people to quit, and like someone said, avoid sounding like religious people.

Ultimately it's up to the individual to quit, so I just want to reiterate that acting like a victim is not the way to move forward.

 

Sex sells.

As long as this is true, the porn industry will flourish. All we can do is spread the word of NoFap and Reddit. The only thing worse than a billion-dollar industry that promotes sex, is an ILLEGAL billion-dollar industry that promotes sex.

 

While the p industry is promoting sex, we should promote NoFap as well. We can promote nofap through facebook,youtube,twitter,gaming forums etc and even advertise nofap in p websites! We should be aggressive to fight against p industry.