Let's stop pretending, even amongst professed Christians, casual sex is an accepted thing.

I'm two things. I'm an anti-theist which means I outright oppose all religion because I think it's done nothing but harm to our world and slow down scientific progress and I'm an agnostic atheist which means I don't believe in the existence of any gods but will never say 100% there is no "higher power". I'm just 99.9% sure that human created religions are a load of crap.

I oppose religion, I don't oppose the people trapped by religion. I see them as victims unless you willingly became religious as an adult, I have no pity for you then.

 

Thanks to scientific progress you've got porn in your flat, inviroment polution and atom bomb too. Scientific progress can be useful or destroying so it's no use in renouncing all for this god of educated people.

So, you are like a saviour, born to rescue us. But what if we don't want to be saved by you and your god of science. But you could ask why?
Because I know your god of science. I described him above and I got a bit to know his messanger - you with your scorn for some people.

Every believer on this thread willingly and freely chose his church as an adult so we are not victims and don't feel the need to be saved by you.

 

This is where you are wrong. My smartness is so massive that it has irreversibly gripped your puny smartness in its gravitational pull. Your tiny, particulate smartness is locked in a rapidly decaying orbit around my supermassive black hole-like smartness, and will eventually be crushed, obliterated, and assimilated into mine. Your only fleeting understanding of my intelligency will be a pitiful wail of desperation as I smart all over you.

 

Interesting lesson, Protestants and Catholics form unity and consider themselves one church if they are being attacked by anti Christian enemies and slanderers.
The logic says that we should be happy being attacked because this is the best possible means to reach unity at last.
And the slanderers, as they are much more effective than tens of ecumenical commisions , they can be called God helpers and truly welcome by us.

 

I do dislike the current hookup culture, I'm not even religious. I even think marriage is outdated, to a certain degree. Doesn't matter if you're gay, straight, male, or female, sleeping around with random people is the path of disease and broken families.

Sex should be between people who trust each other and can handle the consequences.

 

You don't have to read it in any holy book or be told it by any holy person, all it takes is eyes to see.

 

Pretty much. I will argue that it depends on the books you read. Reading on how STDs are spread should be enough to discourage just sleeping with a random person. Understanding the issues that a broken family can cause the individuals involved and society at large should encourage smart decisions like staying in a committed relationship or at least buy a sex toy if you are merely after sexual pleasure.

But the world doesn't work that way.

 

I'm a christian. I attended a church and some of my friends are pastors in this church.
I truly believe in God and confess Jesus as my savior. But here is the thing : we will never know the truth totally and completely. Why ? Because the Bible is translated from Hebrew and Greek. In these translations, i'm quite sure that several mistakes have been done due to misunderstandings, false interpretations, etc. The way we live church today is a legacy of a revival that happened at the beginning of the 20th century. This is why, i believe vision of marriage must be updated... We do not have to judge homosexuality and reject gay people.

One thing i know too: i don't want to cheat on my wife who courageously fights everyday against ALS. I want to be completely clean, this i why i arrived here. Sometimes, it's easier said than done: imagine having a wife and not be able to make love with her, bring her to the restaurant, feel her arms around you. I live that for 5 years now.
This is why i'm tempted to go to porn: it eases my pain but does not fix me at all.
My father-in-law was in the exact situation 20 years ago. He cheated on his wife. Before this happened to me, i blamed it a lot. Today i didn't. I can understand, he was not strong enough to face a terrible situation.

Sorry for the sharing. But life, especially christian life can not be simplified with a list of "You must do / You must not do".

 

You can look at the Hebrew and Greek interlinear/ lexicon on any passages that you think translation may be an issue, or compare different translations from different manuscripts.

I salute you sir. I know a man who faithfully took care of his wife who had MS for 30 plus years... it's one of the most Christian acts I ever witnessed.

 

I'm not a homophobe but if you "update" the Bible to conform to the culture of the time, it will be contradictory to God's Word.

 

Where's god's word located? He didn't write the Bible.

 

The vast majority of the posts in this thread have nothing to do with the OP's question. If there are other topics that you want to discuss, can you create new threads for it?

I've heard others mention this here, but if that is the case, then there are very few Christians. The majority of professed Catholics do not believe what is taught by the Catholic Church, this can be easily determined from polls. There are Christians in this very thread who have said they don't believe in specific things that are taught by Christianity.

 

I'm just going to leave this right here.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vatican-police-break-up-gay-10743972

 

Thanks for your story. Your authenticity and encouragement mean a lot!

 

Well yeah, without the necessary societal pressure, its impossible to keep men and women from reverting back to their pre civilized state of casual sex. Under a Christian patriarchy, women risked becoming outcasts if they had pre marital sex, and since women are naturally more social, the conformed to the societal standard of being a virgin until marriage, because this was their only access to sex and marriage with men.

Its not that Christians are hypocrites today, the whole point of the faith is that we are all prone to sin and only Christ's sacrifice can save us rather than us trying to be perfect. We are simply just flawed beings who are victims of our own environment, and the best thing you can do is recognize that and try to take action. I'd at least rather be the guy who relapsing every month or two than the guy who jerks it to transwoman porn five times a day.

 

If you eliminate trying to be perfect you can forget the possibility to quit PMO.
Salvation includes trying to be perfect.

What is trying to be perfect in the context of PMO addiction? We all on this site try to quit it. Some want to and try to maintain a temporary sobriety ( 90 days for example) and then they hope not to do PMO more often than now and there are some who wish to beat this addiction for good. In both cases we try to be at least more perfect. On the way to be perfect although to achieve complete healing from PMO can be often unrealistic. But to achieve a progress, sometimes a big one, is real for anybody.
That's why we must struggle in the direction of being perfect ( even if we never become perfect).
Someone who thinks that salvation is only forgiving our PMO sins but not an improvement on the way towards perfection ( sanctity) , the one will never quit PMO, even a longtime improvement is excluded because they think and believe it's impossible.
For sure we Christians cannot try to become perfect without help of God because but we can and should pray for it. ( in this case only an honest prayer with faith at the time of temptation or urge can save us).
So striving to become more perfect is needed but possible only when praying, especially when emotionally vulnerable, weak or tempted.

 

I'm Catholic and I had only 2 one-night-stands. Once with a guy I had a crush on and he run away because he finished his "job" and i never got to see him again

He came back to his home country for good a month later and I had no idea about that. The friend who introduced us told me that when he already landed in his country. I felt used, I texted him to tell me something he didn't reply. I didn't want to be touched by a guy for a year

Another time I ended up having sex with a guy a night that I was at his house. He started flirting with me and I liked the attention, he started giving me a massage. He physically looked like my ex who dumped me just a month before. I didn't like his body

I felt quite repulsed but I kept going during sex. I woke up in his bed quite depressed. He didn't want to fall sleep with me. I guess it felt too intimate and he didn't want that. He insisted in coming with me at the station

I was overwhelmed by his kindness. I asked him why (I felt i didnt deserve that) and to end the thing there. He texted me that he wanted to see me again but I rejected the idea

I was very disgusted by my behaviour and I told him I regretted what happened greatly

I don't like one night stands. I have never been interested in just sex even if I am a sex addict. I prefer bonding with the other person

 

50 years ago adultery and divorce were taboo in Christian circles. Rockefeller lost the 1968 Republican nomination to Nixon partially due to his divorce and remarriage. Now the majority of Christians vote for a man with his third wife who has bragged of his various adulteries, genital grabbings, . . .
50 years ago he would have been universally denounced in churches around the country. Christian beliefs have obviously changed, and, at this rate, I doubt if it will take 50 years to broadly accept casual sex. Hollywood and the P industry are playing big roles.

 

It's bad that the current church of some denominations are so easily swayed to conform to societal pressures and conform to the current popular culture.