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Losin' faith

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Alexander_D, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Alexander_D

    Alexander_D Fapstronaut

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    After a honeymoon nofap period, the heavy dreariness of the struggle is starting to wear me down.

    I relapsed last night and today, subconsciously because of crappy things going on in my life atm, as well as a dumb curiosity with chat rooms.

    I dont think i'll relapse in my views on pmo; I think it is a bad thing that diminishes us and, in a small way, tears down the good things in the world - real joy, true freedom, trust and love, hope, dignity, self-respect etc.
    But
    I cant help but look at forums like this and get disenchanted with the weirdos on the frontlines. Even Alexander makes me wonder sometimes, lol. And I found myself getting increasingly impatient and disgusted with the usual 'boo-hoo' threads, or the pervert threads which mask a problem with, basically, just a desire to confess some pretty weird shit.

    And I dont want to be a hypocrite that comes back straight after a relapse saying "but NOW i've found the answer; follow me!" Yet nor am I a beached whale here, moaning helplessly on the shore and wondering how to get back to where I should be.
    Actually, and not to encourage anyone in any way to follow me, but after relapse I got a mountain of work done today. And I think that maintaining a 2month run was actually diverting a lot of energy for me and penting up frustration which couldnt find adequate release in furiously cycling for a few hours or laughing at something funny.

    My big problem is loneliness and not having anyone to be real with at the moment. I dont know how to ask for help and reach out, because I always feel disgusted at myself when I hear myself offloading all this heaviness on someone I love and respect; I dont want to burden friends/family with it, so I try to be fun or take some of their burden.

    Anyway, I at least have faith that we're never completely hopeless and 'God' (sorry if that offends anyone) works in strange ways; literally a couple of minuets after relapse as the awful reality of things threatened to sink in, my best mate called up and begged me to go out with him tonight. We always have a great time and he knows how to take me out of myself and my girl problems, so it was really unusually great to hear from him.

    So in short, I suspect that i'm starting to outgrow the nofap forum, like others have no doubt done before. But i'm really grateful for the initial boost, the early support and education and foundation to try and keep sexuality in a healthy perspective. But I dont think it's a healthy place to dwell for too long. We really cant define ourselves by not masturbating, just like we cant define ourselves by the porn we become addicted to. Life is so much more. And any one life has such a complex jumble of pressures/joys/tragedies etc, that compete with eachother and drive us to temporary fixes that constantly need to be examined, challenged and rebalanced.

    Nofap is really a springboard to say 'hey, lets pump the brakes on this deep-fried fast food sex' and to redirect yourself appropriately. So I think i'll minimize my time here. And I might encourage other long-term users who have set up an identity here, providing reams of half-baked advice on any question and often sounding like lunatics (lol), to do the same.

    My last thought is for Mark Quippet(sp); he was the one who drew me to nofap and I hope he reemerges soon. A natural leader, role model, strong and able to teach. I loved his youtube vids and insights. It was great to find someone talking about such a real problem for me, with credibility, solid insights and practical advice and just the bigness and confidence to say 'follow me'. We all desperately need authentic, flesh-and-blood leaders like that in our lives. I hope you all find one.

    Peace!
     
  2. Tschoo

    Tschoo Fapstronaut

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    Hello Alex,

    First of all I don't like your new name so I am going to continue to call you Alex. Also I have to apologize myself for the way I responded to your last answer on one of my threads, even though I heavily disagree with you on most subjects in life it seems, I could have disagreed in a more civilised manner.

    Setting that aside I agree with you that there is a repeated pattern at work in this forum, which is dull and disenchanting, this always reocurring practice whining and at the same time ultra motivation. Both seem to be to me strong emotional states, which may be felt to be necessary to expressed to feel to be part of this forum, but almost always lead to the annoyance of the one who reads it. All these extreme emotional states can be pushing one at first, but soon fade into being illusions when you are daily on this forum, because there almost always is a feeling of missing substantial reflection. To be honest, you have to dig deep to find a deeply authentic thread on here that doesn't immediatly fall into the scheme of either X,Y or Z.

    I think one of the biggest problem on here is that the NoFap is still in the process of self-definement: Do we hold Christian values on here, do we hold any values on here, who are we and what do we believe? And as long as this basic process of self defining of this group isn't over we will have a hard time to have really deep conversations about anything, because we disagree on the most basic things(like moral absolutes :p)

    I also think my notion about PMO has changed but I think maybe from the other side, from where you are coming from. While you seem to come from a moral background, and wanting to abandon PMO for that reason, I come from a completly selfish background and want to quit because PMO hurts ME. But I think our conversations about moral absolutes have worn me down enough to say: Yes, I guess there are moral absolutes like love and compassion and that these values are worthy to be defended. Which doesn't mean that I uphold the Christian values, but some of my values (found out by reason) seem to be the same as Christian values.

    Oh, and lets perverts be perverts, if they have a problem that they think is related to porn, like the lapse to more extreme porn, I think it has every right to be on here and to be discussed.

    All the best,

    Your enemy/friend

    Tschoo
     
  3. e5s

    e5s Fapstronaut

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    Goodness! You can change your name on nofap? What?!
    I like Dr. Zaius better, but this has the potential to make things very confusing!
    How will I know which 'nauts I've encountered before?
     

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