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Man I'm trying so hard to not think about my hocd thoughts

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Throwawayaccount280, Feb 17, 2022.

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  1. Throwawayaccount280

    Throwawayaccount280 Fapstronaut

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    I know deep down I'm not gay. But I get extremely nervous looking at men to the point where my chest starts hurting due to anxiety. I escalated porn from solo - > vanilla - > lesbian - > Incest - > hentai - > Futa. I just get bored of stuff. I never wanted to look up gay porn, but I found it by accident sometimes. I got shocked by it I think. I never once thought about guys like that. I get urges sometimes, but I don't particularly WANT them. I don't know how to explain it. It makes me feel uncomfortable to even think about me being with a guy. It's hard, but I'm trying my best to not think about it. Sometimes I get groinals.
     
  2. Magnus Spellburn

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    Chest pain is one of the urges symptom. Don't give a f**k to the urges and the chest pain will go away after sometimes. Keep the spirit up!

    I hope this help, cheers!
     
  3. Throwawayaccount280

    Throwawayaccount280 Fapstronaut

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    You helped me so much this past week. I really do appreciate it. I can't show it much, but I REALLY do appreciate you so much.
     
  4. Magnus Spellburn

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    Glad to hear that!
     
  5. Yeah I have experienced all that too. At times I felt so anxious that it felt as if my chest would burst or something. I know how that feels, at times you feel more anxious than aroused and sometimes that anxiety turns into a groinal response where the more anxiety you are facing the more aroused you feel and ultimately it results in that awful erection. I understand that confusion all too well and that lack of an explanation. At times a certain thought would arouse me but other times it wouldn't. That unbearable uncertainty. That feeling that you might be living a lie, which was especially true when I would have thoughts about women and then later my hocd would kick in and fuck everything up.

    I'm more of a positive person and there was never a time before in my life where I felt depressed enough to become suicidal. But I came very close to that at the peak of my Hocd phase. I was facing other problems too at the time, so coupled with hocd and my porn addiction it made a very ugly shit heap. At the end, when I came to the obvious conclusion that ultimately my life and how I live it, my happiness, my well being is more than what turns me on I stopped caring, I became indifferent. That worked for me and maybe it will for you too. I still am going though shit and I do get the occasional anxiety, but it doesn't bother me as much anymore. Know that it will get better if you don't look for "explanations" or if you don't fixate. Or as another fellow fapstronaut put it "Don't fixate on things. Just live life."
     
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  6. Throwawayaccount280

    Throwawayaccount280 Fapstronaut

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    What was your hocd phase like?
     
  7. Nothing that different from any guy here. It's a surprisingly common thing here. Lol I just explained what it was like in my previous post. If you want me to elaborate more then well, every day felt like an absolute chore to live.
     
  8. Throwawayaccount280

    Throwawayaccount280 Fapstronaut

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    Yeah if you don't mind explaining, would you? Cause idk if this is hocd or not.
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2022
  9. iwontfail67

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    Ill be honest with you. If you truely have HOCD, which is a subtype of OCD, it will NOT go away by worrying about it. It will only go away if you disregard every single little thing that your brain spikes at that has to do with HOCD. If you get spiked and you start focusing on it and worrying about it, and coming to nofap and making a post about it, you will NEVER heal. Seeking reassurance is what fuels this stuff and it will never go away if you keep it up.

    You have to disregard all of it. Don't fight it. Let it in and let it out. Nothing more. Don't focus, ruminate, reassure, talk, dwell, figure out, anything. Do nothing except let it go. That is showing you brain that these thoughts are no longer important to you, and they will stop coming in, since you are not reacting.

    Credentials - Fully recovered from the worst HOCD you could ever imagine.
     
  10. Rebuilder4455

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    I agree with the other guys here. Don't give a f**k. I am into hocd too. I recommend you to be patient. Just disregard them and never go back. My biggest mistake is that I always check. When I concentrate on the aspects of my life that really matter to me I feel them go away. After some time (don't care about the number of the days) you will realize that it doesn't have an affect to you. According to my experience, you are going to have urges about other stuff, not too intense necessarily, but again remember that you need time to heal. I felt so good and i went back just to reassure myself that it has completely gone. As anybody understands it came back. The more you think about it the more it will bother you. Train yourself to disregard and care about what you are going to do in the real life. Don't expect this to be done in some days. Every failure is the best motivation to try harder.
     
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  11. iwontfail67

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    Its hard for people to get their head around at first about the whole reassurance and disregarding part of it. But in order to recover you HAVE to realise how that works and why its bad for you to reassure. If you don't realise how it works, recovery is not possible and you'll be trapped in a seemingly never ending cycle that keeps telling you that irrational things are real, when nothing has happened.
     
  12. Rebuilder4455

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    100% agree with you. I can confirm this. I can locate myself somewhere in this cycle. I can't break it. It requires a lot of effort, patience and self-exploration. It sounds like you have overcome it. Can you talk about your experience?
     
  13. iwontfail67

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    I looked up a youtube channel called "Ali Greymond" and her videos taught me everything about OCD. I'm essentially an expert at it at this point. Without getting into detail (because I could write forever), the more you focus on it, the worse it gets. As soon as you consistently disregard this stuff, you see that it goes from a 10/10 to a 5/10 to a 1/10 to a 0. It takes time and consistency and you will feel like you are faking it and that you absolutely NEED to engage with it. But you don't. It is just OCD.

    If it is truly HOCD, it doesn't go away because of nofap, or not masturbating or by quitting porn. It might occur because of these things but it won't go away by stopping them. It goes away by disregarding the thoughts when they come in. Thats it.

    EDIT - that means no looking up threads, no asking random people "please tell me im not gay", not googling, not anything. Do what any normal person who doesn't have OCD would do. Is it rational? No. So why address and focus on it?
     
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  14. When I found out about hocd I tried looking for help online and the advice I got was just horrible. It made shit even worse. They would tell me to go the route hocd is taking you, others would say do ERP. I tried all that and it was not helpful. The anxiety was just unbearable at times. I didn't know what the heck I was supposed to do.
    But that all changed when I became indifferent towards the whole thing. Rather it was like I went through so much that nothing really mattered to me anymore. That helped a bit but it wasn't good for my well being.
    But I guess things changed when I found this site. I knew I wasn't alone but reading about people struggling with the same thing really reinforced that. That helped but at the same time I also knew that it's not good if I'm checking or reading too much about it. No reassurance whatsoever. I learned that from this site. So thanks a lot for sharing your stories and telling people how to beat this thing. It's because of guys like you that I'm here now with my hocd significantly improved.
     
  15. iwontfail67

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    Go on youtube and watch Ali Greymonds youtube channel about OCD, and that should be it for you. Those videos were all I needed to fully recover. Before I saw those videos I genuinely thought nofap and chacing reassurance would magically heal my OCD. How misinformed I was.
     
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  16. iwontfail67

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    OP just to clarifiy, groianls are 110% OCD anxiety spikes. You can get groinals, to full on erections. But you'll know how different it is from regular arousal.
     
  17. Throwawayaccount280

    Throwawayaccount280 Fapstronaut

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    Thing is I don't have any groinals, just arousal.
     
  18. iwontfail67

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    Arousal due to a sudden anxiety spike that directs all your consciousness to your dick and almost feels like a sinking trapped feeling, or arousal due to authentic real pleasure that makes you feel good about yourself and what you’re aroused by?
     
  19. Throwawayaccount280

    Throwawayaccount280 Fapstronaut

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    I just notice my anxiety spikes up looking at men. Like a sinking feeling. I don't like it. I don't want to like it. I think my pied is getting in the way. My penis is dead right now.
     
  20. iwontfail67

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    That anxiety is classic OCD. Just disregard it. Don't dwell or ruminate over it. It will keep happening if you keep responding to it. You gotta act like its not happening. DON'T remove it from your brain. You have to let it naturally disappear.

    EDIT - And you HAVE to stop looking up posts related to it. Don't compare your situation to others because OCD will spike and create anxiety. Searching for posts is a big NO.
     
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