Masculinity

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  1. she-dernatinus

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    What do you mean by reclaiming your loss of masculinity ? and what are the ways which would make you reclaim it ?
     
  2. she-dernatinus

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    The only time I recall 'witnessing' a similar occurrence is when watching advertisements for men's perfumes and underwear. In reality, it would only happen if a male is physically attractive enough to gather attention, because women like good-looking men regardless of how they publicly behave. Saying it's rooted in the man being overly 'masculine', in the abstract definition most of you adhere to, is way too exaggerated. While it's largely due to his physical appeal.
     
  3. she-dernatinus

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    As I understand it, changing cultural norms won't alter our physical bodies. Employing the terms 'cultural neutering' and 'figurative eunuchs' to describe how changing cultural perceptions impacted men, indicates covert cynism. It wouldn't make sense for any man to use these metaphors unless the recent changes induced a loss of privilege on his side. And the threat he would feel targeting his 'masculinity' would also align with said loss of privilege.
     
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  4. PatrickBasedman

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    Based warrior of Argonia.
     
  5. PatrickBasedman

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/ Here's an example that covers both male and female perspectives. Taking a quick look through this subreddit indicates an incredible amount of men and women who didn't fit into traditional gender roles, tricked themselves or were tricked into believing they were trans, and went on to do this to themselves. Men and women should be allowed to exist outside these roles if they wish, but they should also not be shamed for wanting to exhibit traditionally masculine or feminine traits.
     
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  6. BalancedLife

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    Physical appeal is undoubtedly part of masculinity; far from me to deny that. As I've written, masculinity is a combination of several traits.
    It seems that we go to different parties, because I've witnessed this exact scenario more times than I can count on both hands.
    Still, I appreciate that my vivid language made it sound as all of this happened within the time-frame of an ad.
    It happens in a matter of minutes, not seconds, but it happens nonetheless. You can call it "charisma" if you prefer; some women have it too, but feminine charisma has a "bubbly" quality that masculine charisma lacks.
     
  7. FirefromAbove

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    This cursed thread again.


    Happy Christmas Eve btw.
     
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  8. she-dernatinus

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    I wonder what can be done about it.
     
  9. IGY

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    Yeah, tell me about it!
    Get a moderator to lock it! :rolleyes:
     
  10. FirefromAbove

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    I think everyone even those who dont celebrate it. Should step back, breathe, and spend time with their love ones in this thread.

    Cause time is a irreplaceable commodity.
     
  11. MrBlue201

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    Hey Dernati,

    I've discussed it in depth. Men and women are different. Science can only scrape the surface at explaining it. Nobody walks around saying "muh Y chromosome" since its not tangible. This doesn't mean a big "battle of the sexes" is worth ANY of our time, that's bogus. Men/Women are different in beautiful ways.

    You seem very interested, you posted many times so I'll say it in laymans - A man should strive for excellence/success etc. After all; women look for a man's ability to provide. If they constantly compete with him they clearly have no respect for him, simple as.
     
  12. It is Finished

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    Was conscription a male privilege?
     
  13. she-dernatinus

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    I would like to answer to this, but I can't afford wasting my time with someone who denies the impact of P on sexual behaviour.
     
  14. she-dernatinus

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    It depends on the standards in place. And the mentality of people surrounding the matter. Just an advice, don't take the word of pick-up artists too seriously.
     
  15. It is Finished

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    Interesting how you never have any relevant responses when someone asks you the real questions. Not a good look for you. For the record, that’s a very broad claim you made about me. You’ll have to be more specific in what exactly I “deny.” If you’re referring to whether or not porn use leads to more incidence of rape.. the statistics already proved that to be incorrect. Who is it that’s in denial again?
     
  16. she-dernatinus

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    I wouldn't refrain from answering in case I knew I was debating with someone in good faith. If it was another user with whom I have had positive interactions, then I wouldn't reject their inquiries, on the contrary I would see it as an opportunity to learn more.
     
  17. she-dernatinus

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    And I will tell you again that it's true, looking into psychological influence and conditioning is far more insightful than vague statistics.

    No statistics were done in the first place, for you to make this conclusion. It's not that easy to conduct such a controversial statistical study, especially if it puts a powerful industry into the trial.
     
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  18. she-dernatinus

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    Have you ever thought about what it means to conduct a statistical study providing the required 'evidence' linking P consumption and rape crimes? What kinds of methods should we employ to provide that proof ?

    there are only two possible angles from which we can approach the subject.

    Angle one: It would require calculating the ratio of rape and sexual violence since the democratization of the internet P. The result would certainly show an increase. But there is a problem with that, it's not because we have a tangible increase in sexual offenses since the democratization of P, that it definitely means we could pin them on modern pornography. Many will argue that other factors are what really contribute to this elevation of sexual crimes, mainly demographic factors, the amplification of the human population for example.

    Angle two: We can directly ask male P users if they committed rape, thought about engaging in it, or have no problem ditching the consent of their partners. This approach is also useless, because every single one of those P consumers would deny those claims, or minimize the impact of any previous sexual violence they might have done. That's to be expected.

    Both cases would never give satisfactory results whether the main theory was true or not. Without forgetting how the accused industry will employ all possible means to cover their implications. The only remaining route is to analyze the psychological influence on consumers, and how desensitization can lead to a real acceptance of unethical sex acts, or mitigate their impact.
     
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  19. MrBlue201

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    LOL I don't know what your opinion is, but I respect yours even if you don't respect mine.
     
  20. USER_ERROR

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    Better to have a woman who can keep up with you intellectually, physically and financially rather than being some sex-doll dead weight, who you can change and not even notice it.
     
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