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Masturbating without porn, the same side effects ?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Razielcreed, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. Razielcreed

    Razielcreed Fapstronaut

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    Hey guys,

    I would like to know if any of you guys have experienced side effects from masturbating per se, without any porn included.

    Common side effects from masturbating with porn encompass:
    1- Loss of motivation.
    2- losing discipline.
    3- Losing interest in women and/or socializing in general.
    4- Shame, guilt & social anxiety.
    5- Tiredness, fatigue.

    Do you get the above side effects even when you masturbate without porn ?
    Thank you for taking the time to read this & share your experience with us.
     

  2. I do,along with other effects that show up later if you don't stop and i know it isn't from porn because i saw porn in 2013 for first time whereas i started feeling these effects in late 2011 after around 3 years of wanking.
    I also know this isn't from anything else because i don't smoke or drink or have ever taken any drugs. I also have always since i was a child eaten a balanced diet (I very rarely eat junk food) and played sports. Fapping was the only thing that changed over the years, i realized after a thorough analysis, of why i could have started feeling that way. Most importantly these effects become more post fap and slightly reduced if you abstain for a few days.
     
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  3. rowyourboat

    rowyourboat Fapstronaut

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    I find the only problem with MO is it's a bit like a gateway drug - and leads to psub, followed by nude photos, then erotica and porn.
     
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  4. AntiqueRevolverGuy

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    Right on, Rowyourboat.
    Masturbation has lead me to doing some pretty nasty things. I would start doing it, and then realize I can just open up my laptop and search up some arousing material. Really, I want to stop it, I do NOT want to go to porn.

    It has even lead me to justify Softcore material. I know that isn't good. Pretty soon I'll be looking at hardcore stuff.. Masturbation isn't a part of me. That's why I want to stop it. I believe it's a sin, and one that'll lead to other ones.
     
  5. rowyourboat

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    It can be addictive too - and if you masturbate several times a day by the sixth attempt you'll be spending ages just getting that fleeting orgasm (which in my case causes considerable wrist pain). Just not worth it.
     
  6. Razielcreed

    Razielcreed Fapstronaut

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    I appreciate the responses.
    Some of you noted that excessive masturbation leads to porn, sooner or later. True. But, has any of you tried to get back to masturbation after his reboot (after 90+ of nofap) I haven't MO'd since 600 days now and would like to know if a rebooter got back to MO and how that has affected him any way or form.

    After 100+ you're considered as healed from porn I guess. That's a good time to chose whether to get back to normal MO or not.
    Before 90 days of nofap, I believe even MO without P can trigger memories of P & cause you to fall back straight to addiction.

    I personally haven't PMO or MO'd since 600 days, I don't even remember how masturbation feels like, neither do I fantasize or think about stuff like that. It's like I'm back to baby mode, lol.
     
  7. Wow, you must feel awesome man! I am in a binge...and could really use getting a long long long break fromfap..like 6000 days.:(
     
  8. Edgar King of Figaro

    Edgar King of Figaro Fapstronaut

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    Masturbation is the problem. The goal of porn is masturbation, which is ultimately an act of self-love, wheras sex is rooted in love for the other. I notice the same effects if I MO or edge a lot. Also, for me personally I have to have mental erotic images in order to MO, so it's porn that's in my head and that I direct. That's my 2 cents.
     
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  9. JustinX

    JustinX Fapstronaut

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    Any masturbation cause side effects, only real sex doesn't. Don't ask me why it is so but it is so.
     
  10. Allnightlong

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    600 days without any orgasm? You sir, must be dead by now. :D
    How long are you planning on continouing Your streak?

    Back to topic: This is just for me, but if I stopped P and still M, I would continue imaging all the pictures I still remember from the movies.
     

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