PMO kills every part of your body

He's a driver/loader.

 

Maybe he should work one day in construction

Maybe he is blessed with a very strong constitution?

Maybe he has taken good care of his health all his life?

 

No. Don't wish that.

 

So now you're prevaricating. Your blanket statements of physical catastrophe are bogus.

 

Everything he posted is true and I'm an example, Especially the high blood pressure part. Your body will not be able to maintain the minerals/nutrients needed for normal function and will not function properly. PMO touches everything in your body, eyes, heart, kidney, bones, brains etc. Even my teeth are shifting now. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

 

They are not bogus, they vary with circumstance. Not everyone has the same type of body. And not everyone lives the same type of life. My reason for answering like that was to make you understand this fact.

I made a general observation to look at 50-60 yo because there it the long term effects are more visible (age). You came up with someone that does not seem affected. So i pointed out the fact that the negative effects of pmo dont apply to everyone all of the time...

 

We all gone die!

 

Or maybe the dudes are probably eating shit and not exercising . If your sitting on front of a screen 24/7 eat shit and don't look after yourself in anyway of course you are going to eventually have shitty health and weak frame

 

For those saying, he is scaring you, it sounds like you have given up the fight. Your situation in life is not an excuse to be stuck in something that this eventually going to kill you. You are better off without it. Humans see danger and act to avoid it.

 

I think this is it exactly. How many married men have I seen who, around age 45, end up overweight and with a host of health problems? We're blaming this on the number of times the guy has masturbated, rather than the fact he sits in front of the TV all day when not at work, fills his face with fast food and other garbage, and perhaps smokes and drinks?

 

It's not that at all. It's about not trying to frighten someone with myths in order to get them to stop something. Yes, PMO is not good. It wastes huge amounts of time and makes you less confident. There's no evidence it causes physiological problems like high blood pressure, however.

 

Pretty much, if you're not taking care of yourself properly, you're going to run into a whole lot of problems further down the road. Both physically and mentally.

Addiction, of any kind really, would further accelerate that decline. The dopamine hits would help to distract you from the damage you're doing to yourself.

 

Just because you haven't experienced them yourself does not make them myths.

Look, you're 23, when I was 23 I didn't feel that bad from my porn use either. Sure I was a socially anxious loser with low self-esteem and all the problems that entails but physically at least I didn't feel too bad, had I read some of the posts on here at that age then I likely wouldn't have believed them either. At 31 now though I can tell you that actually they are very real. For the past two or three years this addiction has absolutely wrecked my body and my mind in ways you couldn't possibly believe and it only gets worse with every relapse. Does that mean you will also get to this point? No, but carry on and you might. If you don't believe what I'm saying then that is totally fine, I'm not here to convince or to frighten anyone, all I say is to keep an open mind.

 

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I thought it was a joke. If anyone believes this crap need to do there own research and use there common sense . It's the same fear mongering like religion and conspiracy theorists . Do you know what it is that drives these groups ... Not having a fucking clue

 

Well lots of things might happen as I get older. I'm not disputing that PMO causes loss of confidence (probably due to overstimulated dopamine receptors or whatever) and that it consumes large swaths of time, but how can it cause a "wrecking" of the body? Let's say you're married and you have sex with your wife three times a day. Will that wreck it too?

 

Is it not possible that PMO effects some people differently, and some much worse than others, like any addictive activity/substance? This is an extreme example, but look at Ozzy Osborne. Scientists actually researched his body chemistry and concluded that by all rights he should be dead, but due to his genetic makeup, hard drugs effect him way less than they effect others. Meanwhile. caffeine hits him way harder than it should. I think it's fair to assume this can also be the case with PMO, for some people.

Just my two cents on this debate.

 

Yea . Well imagine your hormones are super low . Then you pmo your probably going to feel worse than a guy who has top tier testosterone levels he will just gear up and go back at it . Eventually even he will fell like shit. Age hormones exposure levels to porn lifestyle diet etc etc also tolerance , but this isn't all about drugs it's about hormones hydration levels sleep blood glucose and so on .

 

I'm telling you to stop paying heed to this. It's not doing you any good.
Do your best to curb the PMO with the goal of stopping it. You're not going to die from it. If you could die from it, that 60 year old I mentioned would have been dead and buried by now.

 

The hell is this thread, lol. I'm all for encouraging people to stay off PMO, but none of that is true and none of you can substantiate it. It's unhealthy, true, but if you have all of or even half of those problems, you're either already dead or you have many physical and psychological issues not related to or caused by PMO. For example:

If any of that was true and could happen on top of each other just from PMO, then when I went to the gym about 2 weeks back, it should've been nearly empty with a severe lack of men. But nope. It was packed, plenty of guys, and chances are most of them PMO at least semi-often. This occurred twice. NoFap, unfortunately, has a bad habit of attracting extremist philosophies and I think it's primarily because there isn't a lot of research into porn/masturbation addiction in the first place and so it causes a lot of "far left" and "far right" views, to coin some phrases. That is stuff like:

"Stay off PMO and you'll develop literal superpowers like being able to seduce any woman you want and have women literally drooling over you as you walk by, gain 3 more inches on your dick, and words will have color!"

And then this thread is the other end of the spectrum. "Keep PMOing and you will literally DIE, your muscles will eat themselves, and your overall body will wither away and you'll die forgotten."

Both of which are absurd and none are exaggerations, I've seen all of that throughout the years and again here. You may as well be suggesting that you can do push-ups with your dick if you stay away from PMO and if you keep doing it, it'll fall off. And this just hit me, one of the best ways to keep the heart healthy is to ensure it's being used. Cardiovascular activity is the primary way to achieve this and masturbation is the cardiovascular equivalent of light exercise. So why would masturbation cause an irregular heart beat when masturbation is technically exercise? Gets the heart rate up, don't it? That's good for the heart.

Considering most of the stories that this exists are anecdotal and the average person is their own worst doctor, I'm more willing to bet that PMO didn't cause all your severe health problems, you just didn't take very good care of yourself throughout your life. Even if this was true, how can you assert this happens generally and not for the select few who might have a weak disposition?

Don't avoid PMO because of unsubstantiated fear porn. Avoid PMO because you don't want to keep engaging in it.

If anyone wishes to argue the opposite, then give me a practical example that describes the mechanism of causation between PMO and... whatever the hell OP said. What is the correlation between PMO and any of the earlier assertions made, beyond a "well I have these health problems and I'm addicted to PMO, so it must be true".

EDIT: Although correlation doesn't equal causation, but meh, let's say it does for the sake of this... "argument".

 

Well I'm no scientist so I can only theorise but I'd say that constantly revving yourself up sexually and the copious amounts of adrenaline that pumps around your body while doing so puts a significant strain on your central nervous system, do this enough and eventually your body just won't be able to cope with such a demand. Accompany that with the neurochemical explosion that watching porn and orgasm brings then all of that is going to take a serious toll on you. Whether this will happen to the hypothetical married guy I don't know but orgasming three times a day every day for many years will likely lead to some form of burn out at some point. I don't think he'll ever reach the point of an extreme PMO addict though as you simply can't replicate the same intensity and dopamine high through sex, well not unless you have a thousand different women to have sex with whenever you want.

You say you believe it can cause a loss of confidence, why? Because this is something you've experienced personally perhaps? One of the most commonly cited symptoms by porn addicts is ED, do you believe in that or are all these people making it up or have other issues? If however you do believe that then is it much of a leap to suggest that it can potentially also lead to other parts of your body to not function properly as well?

It took me until 28 for these effects to appear. 28 may not be 23 but it's not 80 either, though I sure felt like I was. It takes a long time and heavy abuse to get to that point. I don't know your pmo behaviour, maybe it's only mild to moderate, in which case you likely won't ever get to that point but if it is more on the extreme end then you run the risk.

I don't know why you'd think that I or anyone else would go to the bother of spreading myths, how is that of any benefit to me? I don't get anything out of telling a complete stranger halfway across the world that pmo can cause negative consequences, I'm not selling anything here.